1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

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1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby uzbashi » 04 Jun 2008 14:43

For a number of years I have followed the campaigns against Mohamed bin Abdullah Hassan the 'Mad Mullah,' in Somaliland, both from the land and sea side of operations. The land operations controlled by the C in C India and the sea operations by the Admiralty through the East Indies Fleet. Having a fairly extensive library if anyone is seeking information I would be happy to help.
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Re: Mad Mullah Campaigns 1901-1912

Postby Mark » 04 Jun 2008 17:43

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Is this the campaign covered by the African General Service Medal with Somaliland clasp?

If so do you have any knowledge as to which British Regiments served there and earned the medal?

I am looking to find a nice example of this medal to this campaign - if it is the one I am thinking of.

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Re: Mad Mullah Campaigns 1901-1912

Postby uzbashi » 06 Jun 2008 08:55

The African General Service Medal was issued for service in Somaliland with the following clasps
“Somaliland 02-04” and “Jidballi.”
British units taking part in operations in Expeditions 2,3 & 4 were:
2nd & 3rd Expeditions:
Telegraph section R.E.
No.15 British Field Hospital (one section)
4th Exped ition
Naval Force included HMS Hyacinth (Flagship), HMS Perseus, HMS Fox, HMS Mohawk,HMS Porpoise and HMS Merlin.
Three Companies of British Mounted Infantry (KRRC)
28th Mountain Battery
1st Bn Hampshire Regiment
Field Park R.E.
Detachments of other Corps and Services
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Re: Mad Mullah Campaigns 1901-1912

Postby Mark » 07 Jun 2008 12:41

Thanks uzbashi, sounds like medals to these campaigns/expeditions to British troops will be fairly scarce.

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Re: Mad Mullah Campaigns 1901-1912

Postby uzbashi » 07 Jun 2008 16:03

Scarce yes but I am not sure if they were issued to the Navy who made an opposed landing at Illig in the 4th Expedition. I am not a medal collector but have seen one or two with both clasps.
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby Andy Lonergan » 06 Mar 2009 21:38

Hello uzbashi,

One of the men I have been researching is G T Forestier-Walker, who following the Boer war was posted to Somaliland. He was Asst Quartermaster Gen for Intelligence under Manning and then at some point changed to Chief Staff officer under Egerton. I know he was wounded at Jidballi but know little else as this is one of those to do areas of his career!!

If you come across anything I would be very appreciative of you letting me know.

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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby kaiser » 06 Mar 2009 22:26

there only seems to be 1 officer entitled to the 2bars Lt E S Carey HMS Naiad
Mon General, if by you action the British Army is annihilated, England will never pardon France, and France will not be able to pardon you! Always looking for medals to the Irish Regiments: 18th, 27th, 83rd, 86th, 87th, 88th, 89th,
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby Liz » 09 Mar 2009 01:09

Andy Lonergan wrote:One of the men I have been researching is G T Forestier-Walker, who following the Boer war was posted to Somaliland. He was Asst Quartermaster Gen for Intelligence under Manning and then at some point changed to Chief Staff officer under Egerton...


Another intelligence officer cunningly disguised as a quartermaster (or is it the other way around?). If you haven't already found it, you might be interested in the discussion of the rank/role of quartermasters at http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=529.
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby uzbashi » 14 Mar 2009 12:36

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In the 19th century and certainly in the Indian Army any regimental officer could do a period of duty as quartermaster to his unit. This appelation tends to get confused with the AQ staff at Brigade and higher formations. Cobbe VC when seconded to the Central African Rifles filled the roll of Quartermaster for a time before assuming Command of 1 KAR. After winning his VC, in Somaliland, he passed through Staff College and later held a number of AQ appointments on the intelligence side. His last two being as Brigadier AQ in 1st Indian Corps and later 1st British Corps before going on to senior Command appointments .
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby uzbashi » 06 May 2009 14:47

Andy Lonergan

You may be interested the London Gazette for Friday 7th August 1903 Number 27584(available on line) which Gives Brigadier Sir William Manning's dispatches from Somaliland and includes references to Forestier-Walker.
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby ABooth » 21 Jul 2009 16:54

Uzbashi,
I have a file on Major Rattigan who served with Gen. Manning. If interested I would be pleased to share it with you.
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby uzbashi » 21 Jul 2009 17:33

I would be most grateful for a view of your file. I am interested in both Mannings career and all matters Somali.

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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby ABooth » 21 Jul 2009 17:50

Uzbashi,
Send note to: hallock8789@roadrunner.com so that I have your e-mail address and I'll send a part of the writeup concerning the Somaliland Campaign and a list of the documents, etc that I have. Happy to send it along. ABooth/Ken Hallock
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby Canutt » 19 Oct 2009 13:24

uzbashi wrote:For a number of years I have followed the campaigns against Mohamed bin Abdullah Hassan the 'Mad Mullah,' in Somaliland, both from the land and sea side of operations. The land operations controlled by the C in C India and the sea operations by the Admiralty through the East Indies Fleet. Having a fairly extensive library if anyone is seeking information I would be happy to help.


Hi uzbashi, I'm looking for a good book about Somaliland campaigns, can you help me?

regards,
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Re: 1901-12 Mad Mullah Campaigns

Postby uzbashi » 19 Oct 2009 15:11

Mario

About the best book on the campaigns involving the "Mad Mullah" is that by Douglas Jardine ^"The Mad Mullah of Somaliland" Herbert Jenkins,London 1923, although now difficult to find a copy. Another good read is Ray Beachey's "The Warrior Mullah - The Horn Aflame 1892-1920," Bellew, London,1990. For a very critical look at the politics of the day with the 1912 fiasco at Dul Madoba and the slaughter of Richard Corfield and his Somali Camel Constabulary the account by H. Prevost- Battersby who had been a reporter on the 2nd and 3rd Expeditions is worth a read. ("Richard Corfield of Somaliland," Edward Arnold, London,1914) Both Ismay and Carton de Wiart devote a chapter to their 'scallywagging' against the Mullah in their autobiographies. Brigadier Mannings Despatch on the 3rd Expedition is printed in the London Gazette of August 7th 1903 and General Egertons despatch on the 4th Expedition printed in the London gazette of 2 September 1904 are both available on line, and there are numerous reports in the Times also on line.
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