Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby roberrin » 01 Mar 2010 01:19

Researching wife's side of the family. Her Great Grandfather served in WWI and the Boer War, and reputedly other Victorian campaigns. The family mentions he went to Sudan, Egypt, and India, Africa, and South Africa. I figure if I work backwards from WWI I might be able to sort this all out piece by piece. I haven't been able to find out much so far, and I'm kinda stumped as to where to look next in the National Archives. If Anyone has ideas, I'm all ears. So far I have the following

Name: Harry Matthew Hewett (possibly spelled "Hewitt" pre-WWI*)
Born: March 17th, 1879 in Leeds Yorkshire, UK
Served South Africa, 1900-1902 - Rank and Regiment as yet unknown
Served WWI, 1914-1918 - WO2/QMS, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry

*Note the Leeds Boer War Memorial in the Town Hall - listing those who served and survived as well as those who died - lists a "Hewitt, H. L/Cpl, 2nd (West Yorkshire) Volunteers, Royal Engineers" as "survived". Am unsure if there's a typo somewhere but I'd be curious to know if the birthdates match. It might be my man Harry, and if so would be a great find and clear up at least part of his story.

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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby dadsresearcher » 12 Apr 2010 20:55

I had a distant relative named Sergeant Thomas Hamilton who served in the 84th.foot York and Lancaster.He was one of the original defenders at Lucknow,and was wounded on the 15th oct 1857.
My father has two of his medals which i will post pictures of in the relevant area.I've literally only just started researching the history of my relative and his inolvement,so please forgive me if any phrases or information need correcting.
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby dadsresearcher » 13 Apr 2010 11:38

dadsresearcher wrote:I had a distant relative named Sergeant Thomas Hamilton who served in the 84th.foot York and Lancaster.He was one of the original defenders at Lucknow,and was wounded on the 15th oct 1857.
My father has two of his medals which i will post pictures of in the relevant area.I've literally only just started researching the history of my relative and his inolvement,so please forgive me if any phrases or information need correcting.


Since found out he was awared MSM in 1897 and died on 16th March 1900.
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby mountbatten100 » 09 May 2010 14:45

William Bunting b 1798 Penrith, Cunberland /22nd of Foot Regiment and William Bunting b1819 Old Catton, Norfolk/22nd of Foot Regiment
I am researching my Great x 2 and Great Grandfather's army careers.
William Snr enlisted in the 22nd of Foot 19th April 1813 aged 14 at Stockport. Was there a depot/barracks or recruiting centre in Stockport?
In his carreer he served from 5 February 1827 to 31st May 1833 in the West Indies. What was the regiment doing in the West Indies?
I think he returned to Chatham. On the 19th May 1834 he sailed from Chatham to Hull. He disembarked on the 3rd June 1834.
According to the paylists he spent the remainder of his time at Hull until his discharge on the 31st May 1836.( he spent time in the regimental
hospital).Was there a Regimental depot/barracks at Hull for recruitment and /or discharge?
His son William Jnr also joined the 22nd in 1835 at Hull. I am still waiting for his records but he may have been with the regiment at the battles
of Meeanee,Hyderabad and Scinde.
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby ekregt » 14 Jun 2010 06:00

Good evening,
Distant cousin of my wife, Troop Sergeant Major William Clark Curling, 5th Royal Irish Lancers. He served with the regiment 30 September 1880 (age 18 yrs) till his accidental parade ground death in Meerut India on 03 February 1892. Am looking for any photos, etc. and any info on his military career. He is buried in Meerut.
Thanks, Gerry Rempel
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby battykev » 12 Aug 2010 19:20

I am currently researching relatives on my paternal grandmothers side.

James FOX, RN, chef on gunboats, time span at least 1854-1874, and was on HMS Decoy gunboat in 1874. I have a medal list for him, with maybe a clasp missing that covers this era, then he disappears after 1874, so probably lost at sea. I would like to find his records as his history is a bit of a mystery at the moment.
medal list I have is....Baltic Medal 1854-55, Crimean War Medal 1854 - 56, Second China War Medal 1857-60, Ashantee War Medal 1873-74, and the Turkish Crimea Medal.
AT THIS MOMENT I DO NOT HAVE HIS SERVICE NUMBER AND AM HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO FIND IT, AND IF ANYONE COULD HELP I WOULD BE GRATEFUL

Henry WOODHEAD RE, sapper......long history of 24 years 1889-1918, and fortunately he received a ww1 pension so I have all his army records for this period. He served in West Africa 1897-1898 and Gold Coast 1901-1903. He was a telegraphy specialist I believe and achieved highest NCO rank. Awarded...mention in despatches, DCM, Long Service and Good Conduct with gratuity, and the Meritorious Service Award given to him during the 1940's, well after he retired in 1918.

Many thanks to everyone, and if I see something I can help with, I will
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby Bob Chandler » 28 Sep 2010 18:40

Apart from my ancestor/relative, name now unknown and probably unknowable, who was at Inkerman (how I wish I’d asked more questions while my dad and his brothers were alive!) my grandfather Charles Chandler was in the Berkshire Yeomanry pre-1904 (when he got married) but apart from some family anecdotes I have never been able to find out anything more about this.

On my mum’s side, I have a great-great uncle (Driver James Alexander) who was in the Berkshire Militia then served in South Africa with the ASC – I have a copy of his record of service as it was digitised, also a coin from the Transvaal which he brought back – and I am currently researching his brother Henry who it appears probably served in India with the Oxfordshire Light Infantry around the same time. I would very much like to hear from anyone who could suggest how I can move my research into him forward.

Cheers

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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby ukgal » 24 Oct 2010 20:14

hi there

im adding my family connection:
Andrew cameron,....Royal Navy, 1874-1878,(medical discharge).....then into an ARmy regiment, of some sort(CANT IDENTIFY PHOTO)..suposedly was awarded the VC, according to family members, and a book written about him, by a REV....but no records in National Archives,.......weird!!!

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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby Garen » 26 Oct 2010 09:29

Hello ukgal - interesting, can't find any Andrew Cameron winning the VC. I see this has been discussed before - quite a mystery!
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby ukgal » 27 Oct 2010 20:36

Garen wrote:Hello ukgal - interesting, can't find any Andrew Cameron winning the VC. I see this has been discussed before - quite a mystery!



yes i have discussed, this before...its so annoying!!....not knowing the truth,..surely if he did humbug,.then there would be a criminal record!!!...which i cant find....its just so weird!!
but thanks anyway!
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby mac657 » 31 Oct 2010 18:11

Found quite a few over the years but as far as victorian wars are concerned;

GGG uncle, 1 Royal Berks - Sudan, including Tofrek. Medal in regimental museum at Salisbury.
GG uncle, 20th Hussars - 2nd Boer war. Medals ???
GGG uncle, Army Hospital Corps - Zulu war. Medals ???

As interesting as service records are i would dearly love to find some photos of these chaps.
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby Gillfoto » 22 Nov 2010 12:52

I am not sure, maybe you can tell me. My grandfather Robert Hugh Gill, (b 1872) here is photo of him around 1892 (fair guess). Looks like Tropical Uniform, I did have someone suggest he might be Royal Marine, any information appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby steampunk » 21 Apr 2011 13:04

3 out of my 4 great grandfathers were on the strength during Victoria's reign.
One was born in 1848 and was a Sergeant in the RMLI and lived to a grand old age, dying in the mid 1930s. He was Arthur James McLennan.
One was born in the 1850s and served 39 years in the Royal Navy finally retiring in 1909 as a Chief Coastguard Officer after transferring across. He was Henry Richard Smith
One was born in 1866 and was a Sergeant in the RM Artillery but died in service in 1898 although not as a result of enemy action.
And he was Frederick James Hill and is my profile picture.

I've got pretty much everything that the national archive has got on them now and am busy transcribing and cross referencing. I'm also lucky enough to have a contemporary photograph of all 3, although the RN one is a family group and doesn't really show the uniform.

Plus my grandfathers were both born in the late 1890s and served in WW1. But that's for another forum.
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby 66Bossdog » 27 Sep 2011 07:35

steampunk wrote:3 out of my 4 great grandfathers were on the strength during Victoria's reign.
One was born in 1848 and was a Sergeant in the RMLI and lived to a grand old age, dying in the mid 1930s. He was Arthur James McLennan.
One was born in the 1850s and served 39 years in the Royal Navy finally retiring in 1909 as a Chief Coastguard Officer after transferring across. He was Henry Richard Smith
One was born in 1866 and was a Sergeant in the RM Artillery but died in service in 1898 although not as a result of enemy action.
And he was Frederick James Hill and is my profile picture.

I've got pretty much everything that the national archive has got on them now and am busy transcribing and cross referencing. I'm also lucky enough to have a contemporary photograph of all 3, although the RN one is a family group and doesn't really show the uniform.

Plus my grandfathers were both born in the late 1890s and served in WW1. But that's for another forum.


I am curious about your Arthur James McLennan. MY ggrandfather was also called Arthur James McLennan. He was born in Southampton 1846 and died there in about 1939. He served in the Royal Marines. Cousin NZ? :)
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Re: Your family in the Victorian Army/Navy?

Postby Frogsmile » 27 Sep 2011 17:34

Gillfoto wrote:I am not sure, maybe you can tell me. My grandfather Robert Hugh Gill, (b 1872) here is photo of him around 1892 (fair guess). Looks like Tropical Uniform, I did have someone suggest he might be Royal Marine, any information appreciated. Thanks.

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A larger image here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gillfoto/5193336234/


He is a drummer (badge on right upper arm) with a pocket watch in upper left pocket on a fob. He has a good conduct "badge" (in reality a chevron) indicating 5 years unblemished service on his left lower arm. He is dressed in a khaki drill frock and white tropical trousers (the latter were worn with the whole range of different frocks). I do not think he is in the Royal Marines Artillery (who wore a bomb/grenade as cap badge) as there is no sign of the globe and laurels normally worn on the shoulder straps. He could be from a Fusilier regiment but that too is not clear.
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