Bandmaster GREEN, b1851, RMA + 8th Hussars in India

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Bandmaster GREEN, b1851, RMA + 8th Hussars in India

Postby researchingreg » 27 Apr 2015 14:24

I am trying to research Benjamin Stephen Green born 16 May 1851 in Ireland,he joined the the Royal Marines Artillery in 1865 at 14 as a Drummer/Bugler, then transferred to the 8th Kings Royal Irish Hussars in 1868 when he was 17, which makes sense as they were stationed in Ireland (Curragh) and Benjamin Green was Irish and his Father was also a Cavalry Man in the 5th Dragoon Guards. The 8th Hussars were stationed in India from 1879-1889 at first in Muttra, Utter Pradesh then transferred in Sept 1880 to Afghanistan for the last year of the 2nd Afghan War. He became a Warrant officer 18 Dec 1882, so he probably was an NCO during the 2nd Afghan War. He was a musician and did become a bandmaster, so he may not have had an active fighting role. How can I find out about his service with the Hussars?
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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby crimea1854 » 27 Apr 2015 14:49

I have found nothing about his Army service, but he reentered the RMs during WW1 with a commission:

GREEN, BENJAMIN, M.V.O., Second Lieutenant (1853-----).
Bandsman, Eighth Hussars, 1865. Bandmaster, Tenth Hussars, 1879; Duke of York's School, 1888; Royal Marine Artillery, 1897. Second Lieutenant, 1911.


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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby researchingreg » 27 Apr 2015 17:15

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Thanks for the information, so he was in the 10th Hussars as well. He became a Warrant Officer Bandmaster on 18 Dec 1882, so I assume that was with the 10th Hussars when they were at the 1884 battle of El Teb in Sudan. I note that one of his Bandsmen Sgt Frank Hayes, was mentioned in the battle for killing a chief in the second charge in single combat on foot.
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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby Garen » 17 May 2015 16:28

Just out of interest, I can't find Benjamin Green on the Afghan medal roll for either the 8th or 10th Hussars.

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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby trooper » 17 May 2015 17:00

Green,s military career is listed in The History of British Military Bands vol. 1. It shows he enlisted in the 8th Hussars on 14/10/65, became Sergeant Bandmaster of the 10th Hussars 26/02/79, promoted to WO1 01/07/81, became bandmaster at the Duke of York's Military School 11/02/88, WO bandmaster Royal Marine Artillery 22/02/97. Promoted Lieutenant in 1911 and retired with the rank of Captain on 22/12/19. He also received the MVO. Hope this is of help. Trooper
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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby Garen » 17 May 2015 21:08

Theres a short biog of Bandmaster Green in the Hampshire Advertiser of 1 Sep 1900:

[summary] b. 1853 at Cork (perhaps not true, see first topic post), son of of Sgt-Mjr in the 8th [sic, edit: 5th] Dragoon Guards who fought at Crimea and was awarded medal for conspicuous bravery in the charge of the heavy brigade; joined band of the 8th Hussars when 12; learnt clarinet at Kneller Hall; returned to rgt. and became band-sergeant; qualified as bandmaster at Kneller Hall; 1879 appointed bandmaster to 10th Hussars in India, until 1887; chosen as bandmaster of the Duke of York's School; Feb 1897 selected as bandmaster for Royal Marine Artillery; daughter, Bella, an accomplished pianist; Green was also a composer ('Eileen', 'Memories of the Past', 'Sunny Southsea', 'Benin', 'HMS Powerful').

In 1906 he was awarded the Royal Military Order Notre Dame de la Conception de Villa Vicosa (3rd Class) by the King of Portugal.

He became musical director for the Royal Marine Artillery in June 1914, with the honorary rank of Lieutenant.

It also seems his band was a favourite of Queen Victoria when at Osborne, King Edward when on his yacht Victoria & Albert (he gifted to Green a diamond pin), and when the King and Queen went to Delhi they took his band aboard the Medina.

Anyway ... I got sidetracked ... I was trying to find out if he was in Afghanistan!
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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby trooper » 18 May 2015 05:51

His father was in the 5th Dragoon Guards, there was no such regiment as the 8th. Trooper
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Re: Soldier in 8th King.s Royal Irish Hussars

Postby Garen » 18 May 2015 09:54

Thanks, Trooper - a mistake in the paper (and copied by my own ignorance in the matter!). Edited above.
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