Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

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Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

Postby simonorch » 19 Apr 2017 22:02

Hi

I've recently discovered an ancestor of mine, Pvt. Jacob Gale, 795, b.1859 in Tormarton, Gloucestershire, served with the 1/24th Foot in South Africa and qualified for the 1877-8 clasp of the SA medal but not the 1879 and of course he, luckily for him, wasn't present at Isandlwana or Rorke's Drift, or indeed involved in the campaign at all it seems.
Through Ancestry i have the medal roll entry as well as a worryingly long list of court martial entries and desertions, including going absent on 30th June 1880 whilst at Gosport and a final sentence of 2 years in 1884 in Colchester for striking a Sgt.
I can't find him in the 1891 census or beyond.

As the 1/24th is such a famous battalion at that time i'm hoping someone may be able to fill a few blanks for me, i'm aware of the availability of muster rolls from Kew but perhaps a few of you have copies of them.

Which company or companies did he serve in during his time in SA? I assume he was still there in 1879 and served with one of the 3 companies left behind when the rest of the battalion marched to its doom.

Might there be another reason why he missed any action during the Zulu war like sickness or a wounding?

What happened to him after his 2 year sentence in 1884? Died, discharged or remained in the army and sent overseas?

Finally, probably a long shot, is he mentioned anywhere in the literature?

Thanks in advance for any help

Simon Orchard
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Re: Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

Postby SWB » 20 Apr 2017 22:24

Hello Simon

I think you have answered your questions, he was most likely with one of the three companies of the 1st btn that remained in Natal during 1879.

The muster rolls will give you more information as to his whereabouts in 1879.

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Re: Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

Postby simonorch » 24 Apr 2017 19:51

Thanks Meurig

I was rather hoping someone who has copies of the rolls might look him up for me.


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Re: Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

Postby SWB » 24 Apr 2017 20:53

Hello Simon

I don't know anyone who has full copies of the muster rolls - it is a lot of paper.

A visit to Kew or a researcher is your best bet.

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Re: Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

Postby simonorch » 27 Apr 2017 18:13

Time to renew my readers ticket then.
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Re: Jacob Gale, 1/24th Foot 1877 - 188?

Postby Isandlwana » 01 May 2017 12:34

Simon,

Given that he had the bar for 1877-8 I would suggest that he might have served in B Company, 1st/24th Regiment.

On 17th August, 1878, Captain Henry Harrisson [sic] and Lieutenants William Spring and Ulick Roche, with B Company 1st/24th, consisting of four sergeants, five corporals, two drummers, and seventy-four privates, marched from King William's Town to the mouth of St. John's River, in Pondoland, where a settlement had been purchased from the Pondo chief, N'quaci. The British flag was hoisted there for the first time by Lieutenant-General the Hon. Frederic Augustus Thesiger, C.B., (later Lord Chelmsford) on the 24th August, 1878, and an earthwork - to which the name of Fort Harrisson was given - was thrown up by the detachment.

After iSandlwana B Company was subsequently designated as H Company and remained on the Pondoland/southern Natal and therefore did not qualify for the three date bar of 1877-8-9. Whereas those who served in D & G Companies, 1st/24th - the other two companies in Natal on 22nd January 1879 did receive the 1879 bar as they subsequently took part in the advance on Ulundi during the second invasion.

There is a very detailed photograph of Harrisson's company held at Brecon, that has appeared in a number of publications.
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