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The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 18 Aug 2014 21:32

Hello Folks,

Does anyone have a copy of the above book by A. K. Slessor (ISBN: 9781277328196). If so I'm hoping for a look-up please -

Apparently on both page 150 and page 185 there is reference to Pte A Warren 4013. I would be grateful if someone could send me these two extracts.

He was wounded in the Bazar Valley on 26th December 1897 so I presume one reference is related to this incident.

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby Mark » 18 Aug 2014 22:12

I am currently researching the Tirah campaign, and have this very book on order. If you bear with me I will have a look for you when it arrives.

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 18 Aug 2014 22:35

Thanks Mark.
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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby Maureene » 19 Aug 2014 03:21

You can get an indication of what is there in a Google Books snippet search result
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=YSF ... e&q=Warren

This book is probably available in full view for those in North America, and perhaps some other places (not UK, Australia)

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby Mark » 19 Aug 2014 08:39

Being a UK resident I have often felt frustrated by the fact many Google books are not available online, yet in North America and elsewhere they are. Archive.org is a great source for old and out of copyright books, which can be downloaded in PDF and other electronic formats. Sadly this particular book is not in their archives.

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 19 Aug 2014 14:59

Thanks Maureen,

I tried that but couldn't really see what I needed. Hopefully all will be revealed when Mark takes delivery of his book.
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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 04 Sep 2014 21:02

Hi Mark,

Have you taken delivery of that book?

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby Mark » 04 Sep 2014 21:04

leofric wrote:Hi Mark,

Have you taken delivery of that book?

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Arrived today, but currently not at home. Bear with me and I will post what I have found this weekend.

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 05 Sep 2014 08:08

Many thanks Mark
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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby Mark » 11 Sep 2014 21:34

Haven't forgotten, bear with me!

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 12 Sep 2014 08:07

Ok, thanks Mark.
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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby OLD STUBBORN » 14 Sep 2014 19:46

Hope you won't mind me hijacking this post but I have two original copies of this book from the "Derbyshire Campaign Series" Tirah is number 5 in this series, I have a personal interest also in this campaign, especially to this regiment.
4013 Private Albert Warren "F" Company (Captain Wylly) was slightly wounded in the left hand which as you mention he received near Karamna (I have it as Christmas Day) on the 25th December 1897.
He also served in the Boer War of 1899-1902 and received the QSA with clasps Cape Colony, Transvaal, South Africa 1902. He joined the 1st Battalion at Rustenburg, in South Africa on the 8th April 1902, the medal roll shows the QSA with clasps were returned to Woolwich as he had been discharged 30th January 1901.
Other casualties in this small action were 5592 Pte Amos Betts shot through the head, 3421 L/Sgt Samworth severely wounded in the knee, later died, and Warren.
Betts, the depressing task of burying poor Betts had been carried out. The funeral service was read by the Rev F. Kirwan, and all officers and many men, not on duty, were present. His grave was filled in and all traces of it effaced by burning straw over it, as though a fire had been made there.
Samworth, died of wounds in hospital at Nowshera after being shot in the knee at Karamna on 25/12/1897 in the Tirah Expedition, 01 January 1898. Regards, Old Stubborn. :wink:
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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 15 Sep 2014 14:19

Thank you for this, very helpful. Does it say in this account what the circumstances were, i.e. was it a skirmish, ambush ?

I understand there are two references to Albert, one on p.150 and another on p.185. What is this second reference?

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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby OLD STUBBORN » 16 Sep 2014 13:02

A small reconnaissance party was returning from the Bori Kandao Pass which led straight to Landi Kotal when they came under considerable fire from sharpshooters.
Page 185 is a list of names of casualties etc. Old Stubborn.
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Re: The 2nd Battalion Derbyshire Regiment in Tirah

Postby leofric » 17 Sep 2014 13:01

Thanks again.
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