Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

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Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 11 Aug 2014 15:15

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I am looking for some biographical information on a Mr Herbert Gee, who was the British political officer for the Tochi Valley during the Maizar incident of 10 June 1897. I have accounts of the Maizar Outrage, including the official one written by Gee, but I would like to find out more about him as an individual. So far I have found very little, so anything would be og great help.

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Norwood » 11 Aug 2014 19:43

Hi, I hope this may be helpful. It does mention a Mr Gee quite alot might be your man.


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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 11 Aug 2014 20:37

Norwood wrote:Hi, I hope this may be helpful. It does mention a Mr Gee quite alot might be your man.


https://archive.org/details/risingsonnorthwe00alla


Hi John

Thank you for the link! I have read that book, and although it mentions Gee, and has a copy of his original report on Maizar, it sadly gives little away about who he was.

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Jonathan » 12 Aug 2014 03:04

There is a bit here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=CeUSAA ... ee&f=false

And his full name was Herbert Walter Gee. He died 4 February 1901:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tjw6AQ ... CBwQ6AEwAA

Not much online regarding him!
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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 12 Aug 2014 08:33

Jonathan wrote:There is a bit here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=CeUSAA ... ee&f=false

And his full name was Herbert Walter Gee. He died 4 February 1901:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tjw6AQ ... CBwQ6AEwAA

Not much online regarding him!


Brilliant! Thanks, Jonathan! :)

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 12 Aug 2014 09:41

I have now been able to find out that he was born in Bath in 1867, resided North Coker, Somerset, and attended Sherborne School (which still exists today) in Dorset. He entered the Indian Civil Service on 28 November 1887, being present during the Maizar Outrage on 10 June 1897 as a political officer of the Tochi Valley district, after which he took a year's furlough from 26 March 1898. He returned to his work in India rising to the rank of Deputy Commissioner of Dera Ismail Khan before he died on 4 February 1901, aged 34.

Sadly I still cannot find a photo of him, but will keep looking.

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Maureene » 12 Aug 2014 13:42

Two death records/mentions
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG22-Q3Y
http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps ... id=1074522

If you have access to Findmypast, there should be an image of his burial record, which may possibly show cause of death.

One of the publications quoted by Jonathan is available also on archive.org. The are some references in the index, however one of the pages does not appear to have been filmed. He had passed examinations in two Indian languages, Pushto, at the Higher Standard, and Biluchi

There is also an entry in the New Annual Army List for 1891, which gives his then monthly salary as 775 rupees
http://www.archive.org/stream/newannual ... 6/mode/1up (about 70% down the page, page 900)

A newspaper article http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3179526

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby swordcollector1 » 12 Aug 2014 14:01

Hi Mark,

Nothing much on Ancestry, apart from this Probate record.

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 12 Aug 2014 14:06

Thanks, Maureene! Most useful. I don't have access to Find My Past, but if anyone fancies having a look for me it would be appreciated.

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 12 Aug 2014 14:08

swordcollector1 wrote:Hi Mark,

Nothing much on Ancestry, apart from this Probate record.

John


Thanks, John! I at least now know who his wife was. The pieces of the puzzle are coming together :)

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Jonathan » 15 Aug 2014 05:45

From Soldiers of the Raj (1989), compiled by George William De Rhe-Philipe and Miles Irving, I.C.S. (originally published under a different title in 1910 and 1912);

Gee, Herbert Walter, Indian Civil Service (c.1867-1901).--Grave and tablet at Dera Ismail Khan, Nos.1085 and 1088.--Entered the Indian Civil Service 1887, and from 1894 onwards was employed as Deputy Commissioner of Dera Ismail Khan, with the exception of four months on special duty at Wano, and eighteen months (from April 1896 to October 1897) during which he officiated as Political Agent at the same place. In June 1897, while he was marching up the Tochi Valley, his escort, under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Bunny (q.v.) was treacherously attacked at the Maizar villages, and sustained heavy loss, almost all the British officers having been shot down at the beginning of the affair; on that occasion, and especially during the retirement of his escort, he was greatly distinguished for his exertions, and the presence of mind which he displayed and the assistance which he rendered were largely instrumental in saving the remains of the detachment. He died at Dera Ismail Khan on the 4th February 1901.


Grave in New Cemetery, Dera Ismail Khan;

1085
4th Feb. 1901
HERBERT WALTER GEE
"To the beloved memory of HERBERT WALTER GEE, I.C.S. deputy commissioner. Dera Ismail Khan, who died 4th February 1901, aged 34."


Tablet in St. Thomas' Church, Dera Ismail Khan;

1088
4th Feb. 1901
HERBERT WALTER GEE
"In Memory of HERBERT WALTER GEE, I.C.S. Deputy commissioner. Dera Ismail Khan, Who died 4th February 1901. Erected by his friends and brother officers who mourn his loss."
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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 15 Aug 2014 09:09

Thanks, Jonathan! I think I have all I need for him now, except for a photo.

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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Liz » 15 May 2016 12:45

For details of his early life down to what sports and instruments Gee played at school, see http://oldshirburnian.org.uk/wp-content ... a-1898.pdf. This contains quite a few bios of men who served in India, you'll need to scroll down several pages.
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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby RobD » 15 May 2016 19:11

Is this book any use?

The Pathan revolt in north-west India : being a complete narrative of the Maizar outrage and punitive expedition in the Tochi Valley, the siege and relief of the Malakand and Chakdara Fort, the battle of Shabkadar, the Mohmand rising, the Afridi seizure of the Khyber Pass, the Orakzai attacks on the Samana outposts, the fall of Saragarhi, the defence of Gulistan, General Jeffreys' hot fighting with the Mamunds, together with an account of the punitive operations by Brigadier-General Sir Bindon Blood, K.C.B., and Brigadier-General E.R. Elles, C.B., in the Swat Valley and the Mohmand country

Author: H Woosnam Mills
Publisher: Lahore : "Civil and Military Gazette" Press, 1897.
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Re: Mr Herbert Gee, Tochi Politcal Officer, 1897

Postby Mark » 15 May 2016 21:16

Thanks, Rob! I did use this as a source for my forthcoming book.

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