1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby alby502 » 09 May 2016 15:14

To anyone that can help...
I am trying research a IGS 1895 to a sepoy of the 38th Bl Infy (Dogras). It has four clasps and one of them is a Tirah clasp. This does not seem correct to me.

Can anyone help?

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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby Mark » 11 May 2016 20:12

The 38th Dogras were part of the Malakand Field Force and took part in operations against the Mamunds.

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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby bill wright » 12 May 2016 22:31

Mark - don`t forget there is a full campaign history of the Derbyshires in Tirah. In case you haven`t seen it this is THE 2ND BATTALION DERBYSHIRE REGIMENT IN TIRAH by Captain A.K. Slessor (Swan Sonnenschein 1900). A splendid full account of 187 pages.
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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby Mark » 13 May 2016 11:35

Thanks, Bill. I bought a re-print copy from Naval and Military Press, which came in extremely handy.

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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby Maureene » 15 May 2016 23:09

If you live in North America, or some other countries, the book mentioned by bill wright is available online, I believe full view, both on Google Books and the Hathi Trust Digital Library. Unfortunately this does not apply for the UK, or countries such as Australia.

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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby terrylee » 30 May 2016 08:35

A rifle used in the Tirah Expedition ??

A Lee Metford Mk.I* marked to the First Devonshire Regiment in 1892. Recovered in Lesotho during the early 1970s. No demilitarization markings and possibly lost, stolen or captured following the regiment's transfer from India to South Africa during the Boer War.
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Re: 1897-98 Tirah Expedition: British Regiments Present

Postby ARippin » 19 Aug 2016 09:55

Hi Mark
I have only recently joined the forum and really enjoyed this thread.
I suspect I'm a few years too late as I see your research has been concluded and your book is about to be published.
Any idea when it will be available to purchase?.... I keep checking on Amazon and it just says 'unavailable'.

Rumour had it when I was a child that my Great Grandfather (who abandoned his family a year or so after returning to England from India) had been involved in a battle in India many years before! Very vague and little to go on. From a newspaper cutting I understood he had been in the Leicestershire Regt only to find out some time later it was actually the 'Derbys' (2nd Derbyshire Regt to be more accurate).
After years of piecing together the life of my errant G Grandfather through stories of his children and grandchildren (not easy considering he was a taboo subject to some), I eventually worked out he had been on the Tirah Campaign.
Then the joy of finding a brief mention of him in the book written by Captain Slessor in which he places him in the final charge on the Dargai heights.
I understand the Gordand Highlanders quite rightly have the honour of taking the Dargai Heights but I was quite interested to read Captain Slessor's account in which he describes an "indiscriminate crowd of Gordons, Derbys, Dorsets, Sikhs, and Gurkhas were rushing pell-mell across the open. The day was won".
I wondered whether your research threw up anything in this respect (whether it made the final draft of the book or not).

I wish I had found this forum some years ago, sadly I was unable to pass on my own research of his exploits to any of his children or grandchildren as they have all passed away.

I look forward to hearing your thought.

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