The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

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The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 30 Nov 2015 14:00

At Portsmouth Historic Dockyard for their Victorian Festival of Christmas 2015.

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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby grumpy » 30 Nov 2015 17:56

Very nice, thank you. Which year, near enough, is the depiction please?
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 01 Dec 2015 12:05

Hi Grumpy, this is circa 1879.

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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby grumpy » 01 Dec 2015 16:57

Thank you, I am no period expert but the areas of my knowledge [rank and good conduct badges] attract ticks in boxes.

[of course your sergeants need Yataghan bayonets but ..................!!!]
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 01 Dec 2015 17:53

Thanks Grumpy - good to know! No serjeants here, myself as a corporal and a lance corporal at the front right.

We issue good conduct at the correct years and for actual good conduct, I need a third stripe myself (13 years now, but I've been too busy making other uniforms to finish that!) but we have a 5 year service and a 4 year service there along with a couple who have not quite reached their first 2 years.

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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby grumpy » 01 Dec 2015 18:35

in 1879 the GCB qualifiers were:

2,6,12,18*,23*,28*
*Two years early under certain conditions.

I expect you knew that, but there is a lot of misinfo about. The above is from the Royal Warrant of 1878, superceded in 1881.
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 02 Dec 2015 10:48

Thanks for the info, Grumpy.

At what point was it 2, 5, 12? 1876-1878? Or is this part of the mis-info you refer to :D
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby grumpy » 02 Dec 2015 12:48

The change to 2,5,12 etc was as late as the Royal Warrant of 1906. One reason for bringing the 6 forward was retention ....... as a result of the Boer War there were a lot of 3 years colour, 9 years reserve men who needed encouraging to stay on. The periods for badges changed almost as often as the army changed its socks!

1906 to 1922: 2,5,12,18*,23*,28*
In 1922 soldiers could earn more badges on top, at the rate of one for each 5 years. In 1961 the periods were reduced again.

The awards at the * items could be two years early if strict conditions were met.

By 1906 only soldiers with reserved rights were still getting the penny per badge, which began to be withdrawn in 1903 when Service Pay was introduced.

GCBs are one of my subjects! I have every relevant Royal Warrant and amendment from introduction in 1836 up to date.
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 02 Dec 2015 13:14

Great - thanks for the clarification, much appreciated. I had it in my mind that it was 5 years in 1876, I think from previous discussions on here and elsewhere. (Larimore references 5 years, I think?)

In any case, the chap with 5 years GC will be at 6 by the time we start the re-enactment season next year, so I'll let that one slide :lol:
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 02 Dec 2015 13:37

Here's a few more photos from the same event:

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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby grumpy » 02 Dec 2015 14:41

Good decision after maladministration!

And its cost your exchequer a year's worth of 1d per day!

Lovely photos, looks like you enjoyed yourselves.
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Re: The Queen's and the Bluejacket's

Postby Dixie » 03 Dec 2015 17:08

Just found another that someone took of us:

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