rclpillinger wrote:I asked the question below in another topic thread, but perhaps because it was in the wrong place, it was missed, so excuse me for asking again, but :
It would appear that when my Grandfather enlisted with the Tenth Royal Hussars at Canterbury in 1879, he had already attained two stripes whilst serving with the 61st Foot where he seems to have joined up in 1876. I think his parents bought him out, but he clearly didn't fancy life outside the military. Having said that, it does seem that he never told of his previous service when he join the Tenth, because he appears to have enlisted under his second name of Roland, where he was christened John Roland, and he used 1860 as his birthday, instead of his real one of 1858. He had a younger brother who was born in 1860 ,but died in 1874.
I am guessing that he might not have been allowed to enlist in the Tenth had they know he had left the 61st Foot by purchase a few weeks before. Perhaps someone might enlighten me on the rules surrounding this.
rclpillinger wrote:That is my point Frogsmile. Clearly it was, and still is, a serious offence to join under presentation of falsehoods, The Regiment, as I have already recently said, knew about his previous service, and my question is "How would the Army have regarded someone re-joining who, only two weeks before, had bought themselves out of another Regiment".
On reflexion it is also clear that the Regiment knew about his birthdate. In fact, there is an article in the Gazette which claims he has three birthdays... official, natural and Regimental. What they don't appear to have known about is his change of name. I suppose that if he wanted to be known by his second name, then that is for them to decide. If he did withhold this information, however, and it came out later, there appears to have been no consequences.
rclpillinger wrote:Frogsmile, thankyou for your reply; I am always pleased to see your name as the last post against my topics!
Firstly, Major Pillinger is my Grandfather rather than my Great-Grandfather. He was born in 1858 and was sixty five years old when my Father was born, and my Grandmother was twenty. He was living in Bombay at the time and she went out for a holiday with him, as they were distantly related. Something about the atmosphere at the beach parties my Grandmother used to tell us!
Anyway, when the notice was exhibited looking for replacements to a cavalry regiment would you expect that they would be sent to foot as well as cavalry regiments or do you think this could just be by word of mouth? Do you think there might be a record of such advertisements anywhere?
As I have said in another topic, I am going to the Horsepower Museum in September and might have a look to see if there is any record of this.
rclpillinger wrote:Thankyou Frogsmile, that has cleared much up in my ever-questioning head.
In all probability my Grandfather, whose Foot Regiment had recently returned from Malta I believe, read the notice and decided that he had had enough of having to move everywhere on foot in a Foot Regiment, and thought he might give riding a horse a go. As he was then a Sergeant I expect he might have had a few quid to buy himself out, nip home, near Bristol, for a couple of weeks and then go to Canterbury to join up with the Tenth. If he couldn't afford the fees to get released, I guess his parents, who were from a professional class, would have chipped in for him.
I expect that over the years, until his valedictory was written 35 years later, this story would likely have been embellished a little, to the point where he tried civi street for a fortnight and then fell back into ranks.
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