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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 13 Feb 2017 04:56

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Victorian Medical Staff Mess Dress Shell Jacket scarlet melton cloth single breasted high collar short jacket. The front fastened by hooks and eyes. Small Victorian crown Medical Staff false buttons.

Marlows Military Auctioneers, Auction, 5 May 2016, Lot 349,
https://whitelabel.globalauctionplatfor ... uctioneers.

Edit, 1/5/2017: See Frogsmile’s post below of 26 Apr 2017.
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 01 Mar 2017 06:02

Will Mathieson (Volunteer unit on Lancaster Bayonet / viewtopic.php?f=27&t=11734) has cited both this:

The Army Medical Services of the Territorial Force, 1908-1919, as recorded in 1912 (with unit members and titles, 1914, added), by Warrant Officer R.L. Barrett-Cross of 221 (Surrey) Field Ambulance, RAMC (Volunteers), http://wellcomelibrary.org/item/b184324 ... 6%2C0.3333

and a very, very comprehensive Archive:

RAMC Royal Army Medical Corps Muniments Collection
(same link as above)

which includes works concerning: Waterloo (and before), Egypt, India, Afghanistan, China, Boer War (WWI, WWII, Malaya)
and much more, eg

RAMC Training Manuals

Printed copies of royal warrants re army medicine, bound together

Papers from various sources re Volunteer Ambulance Services, etc., and Territorial Army

Manual for the Medical Staff Corps

Manual for the Royal Army Medical Corps

Royal Army Medical Corps training manual

Photographs of past commandants of the RAMC Depot and Training Centre (formerly the Medical Staff Corps Depot), 1879-1962

Roll of Army Medical Department surgeons who served in the Second Afghan War, 1879-1880
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Maureene » 01 Mar 2017 13:04

Thanks for posting Peter, particularly pointing out the Wellcome Library's digitised items. Most interesting.

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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 19 Mar 2017 14:14

1844 – 1850

Surgeon Henry Christopher Ludlow, Madras Army, Indian Military Historical Society, Volume 30, No. 1, Spring 2013, pp 28 – 30, http://durbaronline.co.uk/PDF/PDF3-30-1.pdf

….. includes colour portrait of Surgeon Ludlow in uniform, together with a description of same.
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Maureene » 21 Mar 2017 10:46

Thanks again Peter. Interesting to read the other articles in the Journal also.

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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Frogsmile » 21 Mar 2017 19:47

Peter wrote:Marlows Military Auctioneers, Auction, 5 May 2016, Lot 349,

Victorian Medical Staff Mess Dress Shell Jacket,

https://whitelabel.globalauctionplatfor ... uctioneers.


Thanks for this Peter, it is rare to find a shell jacket in such good condition. Out of interest, it is a shell jacket that was also used for mess dress, which the description does not make clear. In effect it is an undress 'working' garment.
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 30 Mar 2017 07:35

Navy & Army Illustrated.

Short Historical Note on “Medical Department” (17th and 18th Centuries), V 8, June 24, p 329.

1896
Photos. V I, January 17, p 56
- Staff Sergeant Patten, AMC
- Surgeon Major WO Wolseley
- Men of the Bearer Company AMC, with the Ashanti Expedition

1899
A Naval Doctor’s Life Afloat, V 8, April 15, p 79

Photo: A Ward in Rochester Row Hospital. The MO Going On His Rounds.
- “MO is shown here making his morning inspection, attended by the orderlies and a nurse”. V 8, June 24, p 335.

The Army Medical Corps At Work (incl three photos), V 8, July 15, pp 405 – 406.
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 09 Apr 2017 14:38

Journal of the Royal Army Medical Corps, Vol 1 / 1903 – Vol 146 / 2000
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000540766

Note: Search only capability. However, this can be very useful. While one can’t read excerpts, one can confirm and identify page numbers of Search terms ….. before accessing Volumes in question.


Great Britain, War Office, Royal Army Medical Corps Training, 1911.
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100383642
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Maureene » 11 Apr 2017 02:46

Peter, the 2nd link was new to me, so thanks for posting.

Regarding Journal of the Royal Army Medical Corps, this is available online from Volume 1 in 1903, (more recents editions not available). The Archive is searchable.
http://jramc.bmj.com/content/by/year

I just had a look at the website, and there appears to be a new layout compared with the last time I looked. However, from the search results, it is still possible to eventually come to a pdf link for relevant articles.

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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 26 Apr 2017 12:30

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Post 1901 Indian Medical Service Dress Tunic

Black Melton single breasted tunic. High black velvet collar with gilt braid edging. Black velvet pointed cuffs with gilt braid edging and gilt gimp Austrian knots. KC gilt ERI Indian Medical Service buttons (2 absent). Khaki silk lining. Shoulder straps absent.

Marlows Military Auctioneers, 4th May 2017 (Part 2 of the Spring Arms & Armour Sale), http://www.mycommissionbid.com/bid/viewitem.php?id=332
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Frogsmile » 26 Apr 2017 17:46

Peter wrote:
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Post 1901 Indian Medical Service Dress Tunic

Black Melton single breasted tunic. High black velvet collar with gilt braid edging. Black velvet pointed cuffs with gilt braid edging and gilt gimp Austrian knots. KC gilt ERI Indian Medical Service buttons (2 absent). Khaki silk lining. Shoulder straps absent.

Marlows Military Auctioneers, 4th May 2017 (Part 2 of the Spring Arms & Armour Sale), http://www.mycommissionbid.com/bid/viewitem.php?id=332


Thank you for posting, Peter, it seems that Marlows do provide some large size photos after all. It's useful to see the IMS tunic, as prior to the formation of the RAMC the Army Medical Staff of the Imperial forces also wore black velvet facings.
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 04 May 2017 08:34

This posting would benefit from some informed commentary.

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“A Queen Alexandra's Imperial Army Nursing Corps uniform with a Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps uniform”.

The Chippenham Auction Rooms, Two Day Sale: Militaria, Enamel Signs and Toys, 28 April to 29 April, 2017, http://www.catalogue-host.co.uk/chippen ... -28/page_5

On the one hand, Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Corps was founded in 1902. On the other hand, “At the end of the war (WWII) the Army Medical Services underwent further reorganisation and on 1st February 1949 the QAIMNS became Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps (QARANC)” (QARANC Association, http://www.qarancassociation.org.uk/about/history) ….. and the cape has WWI ribbons.



For a short history of military nursing from the nursing care provided to the army during the reign of Elizabeth I (1558-1603) to the QARANC: http://www.qarancassociation.org.uk/about/history;

&

British Army Nurses: The official site for the history and heritage of the Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps and its antecedents (Army Nursing Service; Princess Christian's Army Nursing Service (Reserve); Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service, Territorial Force Nursing Service, Territorial Army Nursing Service)
http://www.britisharmynurses.com/
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 16 May 2017 12:18

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“A Royal Army Medical Corps officer's side cap with a silver and gilt cap badge”.

The Chippenham Auction Rooms, Two Day Sale: Militaria, Enamel Signs and Toys, 28 April to 29 April, 2017, http://www.catalogue-host.co.uk/chippen ... 28/page_12
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Re: Army Surgeons

Postby Peter » 25 May 2017 08:23

AO No 93 of 1898 contains the Royal Warrant creating the RAMC.

It can be found in:

Journal of the Royal United Services Institution, Military Notes, Vol XLII, August 1898, No 246, pp 989 – 990.


Also, on p 989:

Authority has been given to reservists of the RAMC (Sections B and C) to rejoin the colours to complete either 7 or 12 years ….. as follows …...
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