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Postby vivace49 » 30 Jan 2009 09:57

Women of the Regiment- Myna Trustram Cambridge University Press.
A facinating study of the domestic background of life in the Victorian army.It descibes the lives of the women who lived on the edge of the regimental community as wives, daughters, prostitutes, lovers and workers.
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Women of the Regiment

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Postby susancammas » 06 May 2016 18:35

Good evening

Looking for reliable historical information about the lives of military "wives" in the latter part of the 19th century, I came across this title: "Women of the Regiment" book by Myna Trustram I can't remember where I found the title.
I believe it was the result of research for a doctoral thesis. It is not easy to find a copy at a reasonable price.

I read it about a month ago, and I must say I was rather disappointed.
Although it claims to be "a detailed study of the domestic background of life in the Victorian army" it mainly focuses on the first half of the 19th century - Queen VIctoria died in 1901!
It also tends to be rather repetitive.
If, you are interested in the first part of the 19th century you might find this book interesting.

I'd love to know if anyone can recommend a better source for the period 1850 - 1900.

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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby zerostate » 07 May 2016 14:20

There is a tiny bit in Skelly’s The Victorian Army at Home (about eight pages that will be of interest to you throughout the book), but not enough to warrant purchasing it unless you become more generally interested in the Victorian army.

There is however quite a bit of information that can be dug out of the Parliamentary records of the time. Below is a fairly random selection from the 1870s-1890s on married quarters. I’m certain that some creative searching could come up with no end of information on soldiers wives, married living conditions, soldiers children, soldiers widows etc. It can be a bit tricky but it’s worth the time to get the hang of it, as I’m certain there are some real gems hidden away in there somewhere!
I think the following snippets roughly show the changing situation and attitudes from 1870 to the 1890s, and are examples of the kind of thing on offer in the record.

Cardwell - short service will diminish the need for more/better married quarters: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1872/apr/15/question-1#S3V0210P0_18720415_HOC_55

1875: still generally very poor conditions: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1875/apr/05/supply-army-estimates#S3V0223P0_18750405_HOC_156

Of interest: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1887/jul/29/war-office-bradford-barracks-the-44th#S3V0318P0_18870729_HOC_26

Things much improved in the 1890s: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1895/mar/11/ballincollig-barracks-county-cork#S4V0031P0_18950311_HOC_90

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1896/feb/25/buttevant-barracks#S4V0037P0_18960225_HOC_122

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1896/jun/15/married-soldiers-quarters#S4V0041P0_18960615_HOC_104

I hope they are of interest and that even if not you can find someting useful in Hansard.

Chris

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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby susancammas » 07 May 2016 18:39

Thanks Chris for this interesting list.
I'll get stuck into it asap - thank goodness for internet - what would we do without it!
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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby zerostate » 07 May 2016 19:23

Hi,

I also just remembered that there is a whole chapter on wives in Hardy's Mr Thomas Atkins, 1899. There are also numerous other mentions about wives and social conditions throughout the book as Hardy was a military chaplain and was writing in partial rebuttal to other texts of the time that were sometimes critical of the way things were done.

The book can be downloaded as a free pdf here:
https://ia801409.us.archive.org/21/items/cihm_05361/cihm_05361.pdf

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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby Maureene » 08 May 2016 10:26

The book mentioned by Chris in the post above Mr Thomas Atkins is also available in a read online version at Archive.org,
https://archive.org/details/cihm_05361
The chapter on wives is https://archive.org/stream/cihm_05361#page/407/mode/2up

The FIBIS Fibiwiki page British Army, section External links, has links to some relevant articles and chapters from various online books.
http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php/British ... rnal_links

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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby Rusteze » 08 May 2016 12:50

Given the context, I thought you might be amused at another title by Mr Hardy - How to be Happy though Married!

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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby susancammas » 08 May 2016 18:03

Thanks everyone - that's quite a bit of info to wade through - it'll keep me busy for a while!
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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby Peter » 25 Oct 2016 13:09

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The United Service Magazine, 1857, V 84 (May-Aug)
p 118 / https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=132
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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby Peter » 26 Oct 2016 07:42

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The United Service Magazine, 1858, V 88 (Sept.-Dec)
p 449 / https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=461
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Re: Women of the Regiment

Postby Peter » 28 Oct 2016 13:30

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The United Service Magazine, 1859, V91 (Sept.-Dec)
pp 129 / https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=143

1860.

Married Soldiers

The United Service Magazine, 1860, V 94, p.3
pp 439 / https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=455 – 440

1861.

Soldier’s Wives

The United Service Magazine, 1861, 97, p.3
p 294 / https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=308
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