1891 Artillery Brass Casing BSA & M Co. 1891

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1891 Artillery Brass Casing BSA & M Co. 1891

Postby Will Mathieson » 08 Oct 2017 01:39

Just found this early tapered brass casing by BSA & M Co. Also marked 12/I\91 for what I presume is Dec 1891.
This 16" tall casing has a base of 6 1/16" and a inner diameter at the mouth of 4 5/8". The mouth has 3 sets of double shallow grooves. The rim is 7/32" wide and the base of the case is quite heavy. There is a ring showing around the primer 2 1/4" wide and this actually protrudes slightly.

I would like to know what artillery piece this casing was used in.

I usually come across WW1 and later casings since millions were made but these earlier ones were not made in large quantity and many most likely recycled.

Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 1891 Artillery Brass Casing BSA & M Co. 1891

Postby grapeshot » 08 Oct 2017 08:38

Hi, You have a 4.7 inch case for the navy gun mark I - IV, BSA & MCo is Birmingham Small Arms & Metals Company.
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Re: 1891 Artillery Brass Casing BSA & M Co. 1891

Postby Will Mathieson » 08 Oct 2017 13:15

Thanks for that Jim much appreciated. I'll have to find out what naval ship would have sailed up the St.Lawrence river that had such a gun. Of course items now can travel much further, so where you find them does not necessarily give you clues to their origin.
I now see some were used on land.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_4.7-in ... E2%80%93IV
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Re: 1891 Artillery Brass Casing BSA & M Co. 1891

Postby RobD » 08 Oct 2017 15:16

Will, another distinct possibility would be that this was fired from one of the four the Naval 4.7 inch guns of HMS Terrible and HMS Powerful which were fitted with carriages at Simonstown, then brought up to Durban, and had such a celebrated role in the Natal campaign 1899-1900 [along with the Naval 12 pdrs]. The Naval guns were so famous because they were able to match the Boer artillery for range, something which the field artillery could not remotely achieve.
If you do an image search, you will see how many photos, engravings and paintings feature these famous guns! Just the sort of memorable occasions a person might want to keep a souvenir of.
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Re: 1891 Artillery Brass Casing BSA & M Co. 1891

Postby Will Mathieson » 09 Oct 2017 00:49

Thanks Rob, I have been googling it and found much more about them. Canadians were in SA so it makes sense the casing could have been taken from there..
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