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Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby niimmm » 18 Aug 2017 20:11

Hi fellas.
Please can someone be kind enough to help me identify this bayonet.

Blade length is 21.5 inch
Overall length is 25 inch
Internal socket diameter is 16mm

Thank you
Simon
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 18 Aug 2017 20:42

Martini Bayo.

Markings say from top to bottom......

Military broad arrow=inspected and accepted for service (acceptance mark)

Wd=War Department

Crown over letter over number=Enfield, Inspector 48

1/88= Month and date of production OR re-furbishing

Two arrows nose to nose=sale mark, sold out of service
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby niimmm » 18 Aug 2017 21:13

Hi Ed.
Thank you for replying. I thought it was a Martini bayonet too. But the socket diameter is too narrow to fit my MH by about 2mm

Simon
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 18 Aug 2017 22:57

Is the socket bushed. That is, does it look like a thin tube has been slipped into the bayonet socket to make it smaller? I don't want to call it what I think it is quite yet.
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby A.Roads » 20 Aug 2017 11:45

Although it is not a Pattern 1895 bayonet I wonder if it has been modified to fit a Martini Enfield (.303), the bridge has been cut away & that could be for the taller foresight on this rifle.
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby Frogsmile » 20 Aug 2017 19:32

I too think it has been modified for a Martini Enfield, which was issued to many Indian and African Colonial units when British Regulars first adopted the bolt action, magazine fed, Lee Metford rifle and carbine.
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby RobD » 20 Aug 2017 22:51

Citadel arsenal (Cairo) modified Martini Enfield bayonet. IMA sells these for $74.95, but they're really only useful if you have a Citadel Martini Enfield, because they (a) don't fit the Martini Henry and (b) the blade is to the side when fixed, unlike the P1895 British Martini Enfield bayonet where the blade is below the barrel when fixed. Attached is a pic of Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry in the ABW with their Martini Enfield rifles, special ammo pouches, and P1895 bayonets.This is the kit they wore at Spionkop.
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Re: Help identifying a bayonet please

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 23 Aug 2017 02:08

It is probably a Egyptian Citadel conversion. It would be nice to see some Egyptian Numerals on it as so many of these bayonets in Egyptian possession had stamped markings. This bayonet was sold out of service as signified by the nose to nose broad arrows, and yet after the sale, the marking has no relief around the edges from the stamping impact. This was used quite a lot after being sold.
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