Help with buying a Martini Henry please

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Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby niimmm » 02 Sep 2016 19:06

Hi guys,
I'm looking to buy a Martini Henry Mk II and have been cruising around the websites - as you do.
One dealer has sent me these images.
I would be most grateful and appreciative if some knowledgeable members here could take a look and give me their critical comments before I decide to plunge in and buy.

Thank you

Simon
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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby terrylee » 02 Sep 2016 20:14

Although Skennerton does not record any Mk.IIs manufactured by L/S.A. in 1887, it looks genuine. Most unfortunately the woodwork has been refinished which detracts from its collector's value.
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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby timothylrose » 02 Sep 2016 20:59

She's very blonde isn't she - if you are UK based drop me a pm and I will give you some off forum advice - atb Tim
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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby niimmm » 03 Sep 2016 12:22

Hi guys.
Thanks a lot for highlighting the colour of the wood. That was something I had not noticed myself. Maybe I can negotiate a discount with that.

Also I've been concerned with the tear drop shaped lever on the side of the loading mechanism. I've got the Osprey book on the MH and comparing the pictures in that it looks like a shorter later lever perhaps off a mark 3.
Am I correct in thinking it should be longer?

Again, thanks for your help.

Simon
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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby timothylrose » 03 Sep 2016 13:59

OK the Osprey book written by an expert of Martinis (as he says he must be as he owns one!) it is a very brief introduction to the subject really - the Mark 1 /2 indicator normally comes up to about the VR of the stamping so from the photo think it's a Mark 3 indicator - we went through a series of pms on buying a Martini two years ago Simon and my advice then for suppliers still stands - the only difference is thanks to the dollar the price will be more now than 2 years ago! The last Martini I sold was a commercial in full military configuration short lever and I moved it on for £200. Good hunting anyway - atb Tim
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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby terrylee » 03 Sep 2016 19:05

I understand that in certain instances the date of manufacture is more relevant than mark in determining whether the rifle concerned has a small or large cocking indicator. I attach a photo of another very late Mk.II L.S.A. Martini Henry with the smaller indicator.

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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby RobD » 04 Sep 2016 19:05

FWIW, I have an 1885 LSA Martini, again with the small cocking indicator.
I think your rifle looks as it should, apart from the sanded wood finish and the layer of varnish. Nitromors paint stripper applied with a soft bristle brush and wiped off with kitchen towel will take off the varnish (avoid any more abrasives, even steel wool, or the markings may be lost forever), then a couple of coats of walnut stain, then stock oil rubbed in and it will look as it should. Danish oil would be my preference rather than Linseed oil, which takes forever to harden and sometimes never does.
Can you make out on the buttstock the letters to the left of the London cartouche - is it KRR (King's Royal rifle Corps)?
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Re: Help with buying a Martini Henry please

Postby niimmm » 04 Sep 2016 23:01

Hello all,
thank you so much for your comments and advice. This is all adding to my MH education.
Unfortunately this rifle has been sold from under me so I'm back on the hunt...

I hope you won't mind me posting again for advice here when I find one I like.

Simon
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