Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby psc945 » 27 Apr 2013 16:22

Completed the helmet.
Acording to the card that came with the Centre plate it stated 1902 - 1914
So close but not there yet.
Need to identify the 1881 - 1902 centre plate.
I have tried to contact the references given but no replies.
I am still looking.
The Helmet does look good now.
Have a nice Martini Henry bayonet and scabbard, just made the hanging frog in white for the belt.
Now need at least one 1882 period ammo pouch.

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby fantomark » 27 Apr 2013 17:07

HI!
very interesting thread and fantastic uniform assembly!

just one question for frogsmile; I have noticed brass shoulder titles on one of the tunics.
Any ideas st to when these were first introduced? I believe just before the 2nd Boer War, correct..?

Secondly, I am positively sure I read somewhere that Royal regiments did have a red glengarry toorie , but I can't remember where right now!....

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby Frogsmile » 27 Apr 2013 20:11

psc945 wrote:Completed the helmet.
Acording to the card that came with the Centre plate it stated 1902 - 1914
So close but not there yet.
Need to identify the 1881 - 1902 centre plate.
I have tried to contact the references given but no replies.
I am still looking.
The Helmet does look good now.
Have a nice Martini Henry bayonet and scabbard, just made the hanging frog in white for the belt.
Now need at least one 1882 period ammo pouch.




Good stuff psc45, you have done a great job.

As regards the helmet plate centre, I have just checked my Kipling and King's reference and the difference between the 1881 and 1902 pattern is minimal, if there is a difference at all, you certainly cannot tell from the illustrations. In the descriptions both state that the central rose is in white metal, but on the 1902 pattern it implies (the wording is not clear) that an additional, smaller white rose, sits over the larger, presumably giving a more 3D depth to the centre of the badge.

Look out for original 1882 ammunition pouches at antiques sites on the web, they are available and are not always expensive.

Concerning the tuft/toorie on the glengarry, please see my reply to Fantomark below and I am sorry for any confusion/inconvenience caused.
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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby psc945 » 27 Apr 2013 20:19

Excellent was going to use for now, but worried as to the diference, as you say very little diference I feel better for knowing. Will still try to get the right one in time.
Can't see your reply, re Toorie. But I can change it anytime if needed, now have each colour so not a major problem now.

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby Frogsmile » 27 Apr 2013 20:26

fantomark wrote:HI!
very interesting thread and fantastic uniform assembly!

just one question for frogsmile; I have noticed brass shoulder titles on one of the tunics.
Any ideas st to when these were first introduced? I believe just before the 2nd Boer War, correct..?

Secondly, I am positively sure I read somewhere that Royal regiments did have a red glengarry toorie , but I can't remember where right now!....

Cheers!

Marco


Hello Marco,

The first 'brass' shoulder insignia was the regimental number introduced in 1872 at the same time as the rank and file tunics changed from red to scarlet.

In 1881 the shoulder titles on other ranks full dress (and undress frocks) changed to worsted embroidery and remained so until 1907-08 when a surge in the cost of wool made brass cheaper again and the brass regimental titles were introduced for full dress having already been used for some years on khaki drab.

As regards the tuft/toorie on the glengarry, it seems that according to Col (Retd) P S Walton (who I respect greatly) the tuft for the majority of the line was scarlet, with just the light infantry having black on their dark green version of the cap.
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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby psc945 » 27 Apr 2013 23:13

Finished the Bayonet frog, the bayonet fits well too.

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby psc945 » 12 Jul 2013 16:20

First outing in guard order 15th reg of Foot, it was in the actual town of the original Barracks of the 15th regiment of foot.

just becoming uneasy about the right position of the ammo pouch in some pics it is on the right and some it is on the left.

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby Frogsmile » 21 Jan 2014 15:36

psc945 wrote:First outing in guard order 15th reg of Foot, it was in the actual town of the original Barracks of the 15th regiment of foot.

just becoming uneasy about the right position of the ammo pouch in some pics it is on the right and some it is on the left.



This is the first time that I have seen your finished product psc, as I was away for some months. I think you have done a very credible job of reproducing the uniform of the regiment in which you are interested.

The pouch on the right side is correct for Guard Order, when only one pouch was worn. This is because when the order 'Load' was issued the rifle would be held at the point of balance in the left hand with the breech open and the magazine shut off closed, thus enclosing the so-called 'ready reserve' within the charged magazine, for use in the event of a 'rush' by the enemy. With the breech open, a round is then taken from the pouch on its right side of the belt with his right hand. He then inserts the round in the breech and closes the bolt, remaining in the 'ready' position until the order 'present' is given.
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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby psc945 » 11 May 2014 22:41

Thanks
Still looking at developing this.
Trying to piece together the rest of the marching order kit.
So still bits to add.
Nice to be able to attend events and show East Yorkshire regiment through time.
Looking at the picture should have had the bottle and bag straps under the shoulder straps.

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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby Frogsmile » 12 May 2014 10:30

psc945 wrote:Thanks
Still looking at developing this.
Trying to piece together the rest of the marching order kit.
So still bits to add.
Nice to be able to attend events and show East Yorkshire regiment through time.
Looking at the picture should have had the bottle and bag straps under the shoulder straps.

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Yes but you have done a good job with the reproduction of your uniform. A key aspect is that trousers had a very high waist and were worn long, being slightly flared at the bottoms. Too many wear them too short.
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Re: Uniform of the 15th Regiment of foot

Postby psc945 » 05 Sep 2017 12:12

Just updated pics as Photobucket now wants paying to use the site.
Have tried to update all pics as originally posted. Cannot update other 'quoted' posts with my pics on.
Hopefully still will make sense.

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