MASTER THREAD: Slade-Wallace Equipment

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MASTER THREAD: Slade-Wallace Equipment

Postby Mark » 13 Aug 2007 23:50

This section is intended to act as a 'Master' thread for detailed discussions on the British Army issue Slade-Wallace equipment.

Do any members have some original examples? Maybe some photographs and descriptions?

Any images and information welcome.

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby The RQM » 17 Aug 2007 20:48

Mark,
I have several original belts and bayonet frogs and will try to posy some photos.
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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby kay » 18 Aug 2007 03:18

Please forgive my ignorance but is Slade Wallis a makers name? Be pleased to see photos Stan. Welcome to the Forum by the way.


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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby villaphan » 18 Aug 2007 16:07

Stan
Hello and welcome to the Forum :D

Kay
Though this is a reproduction i think this is the type of thing made by Slade Wallis.
Much like you this is all new to me but we`re learning all the time.

http://www.ima-usa.com/product_info.php ... 597bf8a623

Just been surfing and also found this which might be of interest


http://www.fashionoutdoor.com/learning_ ... s_type=431

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby kay » 18 Aug 2007 22:19

Hi Mark

Many thanks for the links, will take a look

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby hickspasha » 27 Aug 2007 23:01

Hi Kay,

And hello everyone, I'm new to this forum, glad to find a place for we fans of "Vickies Little Wars".

Kay, the "Valise Equipment, Pattern 1888" is popularly known as the "Slade-Wallace" Equipment" after its two designers, Colonel Slade and Major Wallace (correct spelling). This was an improvement upon the previous "Valise Equipment, Pattern 1870". It is the 1870 Pattern that you see in the second link to the page with the Dragon Zulu War figure. The equipment is incorrectly listed as being Slade-Wallace. The IMA link does show a fine reproduction of the actual Slade-Wallace pattern however they should correct the spelling.

An excellent reference for the equipment of this period and earlier is "Soldiers' Accountrements of the British Army 1750-1900" by Pierre Turner. I got a copy on Amazon and think it's one of the best you can find.
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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby Mark » 31 Aug 2007 11:33

The RQM wrote:Mark,
I have several original belts and bayonet frogs and will try to posy some photos.
Cheers
Stan Dolan


Hi Stan

Firstly let me extend to you a warm welcome to the Forum. We are still new but slowly growing and we appear to have some very knowledgeable members already.

Secondly I would love to see any photographs you have of original examples of this equipment. Slade-Wallis items seem pretty rare and I have only seen a belt for sale recently but not much else.

For those of you in the UK who buy replica equipment for re-enacting etc. can I ask where you get it from? I have seen it sold on websites (as per linked to in a post above) in the US but do not know of a UK-based supplier.

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby hickspasha » 02 Sep 2007 16:06

Hi Mark,

One of the most reasonable places to purchase replica Slade-Wallace sets is the U.S. based IMA at http://www.ima-usa.com/index.php. IMA also has original examples of the kidney shaped mess tin used throughout the 19th century, WWI and between the wars. Theirs is a mixture of both replica and original items but the prices are very good. The Martini I own came from IMA and for the extra $5US it was worth getting a hand-picked item. The rifle I received is in excellent condition. IMA also has a very large stock of the Bakers, Brunswicks and Martini's from Nepal I mentioned in another thread.

From Australia this supplier has some fine replicas (including the kidney shaped mess kit and cover!): http://www.lawranceordnance.com/khaki-a ... ccessories. In the UK you will find no better or more reliable a place for original items as: http://www.militariamart.co.uk/newsite/home.php. It is basically an online antique millitaria shopping mall. It can be sometimes tedious looking through the items but many gems are waiting to be discovered.

A terrific U.K. based store for replica Victorian militaria is The Thin Red Line: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~thinred/catalogue.htm. The stock is very large and the coverage is as far back as the 1850's. Though not inexpensive the quality is impossible to beat. The best thing about Red Line is that the equipment is supplied in the original buff leather, as they state on their site. The white we are all so accustomed to seeing was applied by the soldier for parade, marches, etc. In actual field use the leather was usually allowed to return to it's natural buff color. Here you will find the Slade-Wallace (or more correctly the Pattern, Valise, 1888) as well as the earlier Pattern, Valise, 1871 worn throughout the Zulu Wars, and in the Afghan, Sudan, Egypt, First Boer War, Maori, Kaffir, and on and on... Cavalry equipments are also available.

EBay is not a bad place to find original and replica items, some of the helmets I purchased quite resonably through eBay. There are also a few places where you can get replica uniforms made to order. I'll have to dig for those but I'll get back to you with the contact information. Personally I plan to one day own a complete uniform in khaki, shoes, puttees, the whole lot. Fully kitted out and with my Martini in hand (the rifle not the drink) I think I'm put my wife into hysterical fits of laughter. I don't mind dressing the part and looking a bit silly once in a while.
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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby The RQM » 31 Dec 2007 07:03

The first is an original .303 bandolier and the second a reproduction of the Slade Wallace with the last pattern ammo pouches and the third a reproduction of the actual valise.
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PS I take it my photos are too large. Try following the links if possible.


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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby Mark » 02 Jan 2008 00:12

Hi Stan

Cracking photos!

How accurate are the reproduction Slade Wallace items? Are they very faithful replicas and where do you obtain yours?

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby The RQM » 02 Jan 2008 01:51

Mark,
I am a bit biased when it comes to the reproductions, as I am the supplier.
The valise itself is about 90% as I was not able to open the original I patterned my copy from. The Slade Wallace set is pretty much dead-on except for the type of leather used. I hope to be going to a more accurate type of leather for the next batch.
Here is the address to my website is you are interested:

http://www.regimental-quartermaster.com

I will be posting some more photos of original items, soon.

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby Dixie » 25 Nov 2010 11:15

Hi all,

I have a query which I really hope some of you will be able to answer for me!

I have 2 sets of the replica 1888 Slade Wallace. It is very good quality and I highly recommend it! I run a reenactment group for the Queens Royal West Surrey 2nd Volunteers, so we have this equipment in black. I have stripped and dyed/polished one set, and we will be using it in Portsmouth this Sunday for the Christmas Festival.

However, I am not sure how the brace straps fit at the back. I have the book British infantry equipments (1), 1808-1908 By Mike Chappell which is reasonably helpful with the description, however there are two small straps which I assume are the coat straps, and I cannot work out how the straps fit together with a greatcoat rolled between them.

At the moment I have the two smaller straps as well as the brace straps fitted to the belt, so the longer end of the brace strap can loop round the coat and secure to the buckle on the end of the coat strap which comes down below the belt. Is this correct?

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A picture of my sergeant wearing the belt kit in black.!

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Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby Dixie » 26 Nov 2010 10:32

*UPDATE*

Someone has very kindly emailed me an illustration showing what I need.

I shall post up some photos of my lads in the black slade wallace gear once it is completed.

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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby Dixie » 03 Mar 2011 18:18

I forgot to post this after it was completed, but:

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Still needs a bit of adjustment though!
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Re: MASTER THREAD: Slade Wallis Equipment

Postby sgtward35th » 01 Apr 2011 11:52

Great pic and beautiful ladies! I sure would like to see a pic of the back of the slade wallace gear now that you have the straps and buckles figured out. I'm struggling with a new set here in Canada.
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