Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era?

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Re: Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era

Postby servicepub » 18 Feb 2017 19:55

Any ideas on this one? I was told that it was a Cavalry Oliver Pattern bottle but have never seen this in period photos.
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Re: Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era

Postby AlexReece » 18 Feb 2017 20:08

Hello Clive

The first canteen you shown us I believe is an Mk1V introduced 1895 and yes the second one like you say described as cavalry Probably for officers but like you I have not seen any period images showing this bottle in use, unlike the MK1V that you see in many a Boer War images.

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Re: Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era

Postby Albert J » 19 Feb 2017 14:37

servicepub wrote:Any ideas on this one? I was told that it was a Cavalry Oliver Pattern bottle but have never seen this in period photos.


Hi Clive,

That is a late Victorian flask. Commonly associated with the fox hunting gentry,a civilian model adopted by officer's for use with "spirits"in the field. Google..." British Fox Hunting Flask" you'll get the idea.

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Re: Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era

Postby AlexReece » 19 Feb 2017 21:49

Hello Fellow Members

I have been lucky enough to get my hands on this MK11 canteen that has a webbing strap as apposed to the conventional leather.
The strap has age to it and as I can tell has been with the canteen along time, but I guess the bottle has been reissued pre WW1 at some point, hence the webbing strap ? but my question is....I know some webbing equipment was issued in the later stages second Boer War ie mills bandoliers etc but did at any time these canteens have webbing straps during that campaign ?

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Re: Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era

Postby Albert J » 22 Feb 2017 11:17

Hi Alex,
Nice water bottle. I think we touched on "webbing" straps elsewhere within this thread, but yes, it is possible this Mk.11 water bottle could have been used during the 2nd ABW with the webbing strap as pictured. The MK.11 was issued originally with a buff,black, or brown leather strap.

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Re: Water bottles: patterns in use in the late Victorian era

Postby AlexReece » 23 Feb 2017 00:44

Thanks for that James

I have taken some better images of the bottle Showing Some interesting markings to the webbing ?

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Looks like the felt cover also had some ink Regt markings but now sadly have worn away.

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