ID Regt Mark 1871 Pattern Valise belt

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Re: ID Regt Mark 1871 Pattern Valise belt

Postby AlexReece » 05 Sep 2017 17:08

Hello Frogsmile

I have put the question to them

Will post the reply

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Re: ID Regt Mark 1871 Pattern Valise belt

Postby Frogsmile » 05 Sep 2017 18:59

AlexReece wrote:Hello Frogsmile

I have put the question to them

Will post the reply

Alex


Thinking about the stencilled number further I am fairly sure that it is a unit equipment serial number. Soldiers serial numbers were at least 4-digits and stencilled with paint only on personal items such as clothing and e.g. shaving brushes. Equipment belts belonged to the company in which each man served and were numbered for accounting purposes. If one man left the RVC then the belt would be issued to another.
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Re: ID Regt Mark 1871 Pattern Valise belt

Postby t100 » 05 Sep 2017 21:28

The photos on http://www.bottesfordhistory.org.uk/content/topics/wartime-bottesford/militia-men-recruits-and-volunteers purport to show the 1st Volunteer Battalion. I believe they do show the unit as the uniforms are a good match (white Austrian knots as seen here were a feature, in place of the regulation black). The second photo (http://www.bottesfordhistory.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Belvoir_Volunteers_1890s_enhanced.jpg) clearly shows the union locket in use.

I've seen and copied many hundreds of photos of volunteers circa 1880-1900 over 30 years of study, and this is not particularly unusual. I would guess about 1/3 of volunteer battalions used this rather than the snake clasp.

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Re: ID Regt Mark 1871 Pattern Valise belt

Postby AlexReece » 05 Sep 2017 22:00

t100 wrote:The photos on http://www.bottesfordhistory.org.uk/content/topics/wartime-bottesford/militia-men-recruits-and-volunteers purport to show the 1st Volunteer Battalion. I believe they do show the unit as the uniforms are a good match (white Austrian knots as seen here were a feature, in place of the regulation black). The second photo (http://www.bottesfordhistory.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Belvoir_Volunteers_1890s_enhanced.jpg) clearly shows the union locket in use.

I've seen and copied many hundreds of photos of volunteers circa 1880-1900 over 30 years of study, and this is not particularly unusual. I would guess about 1/3 of volunteer battalions used this rather than the snake clasp.

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That's excellent T and has confirmed the belts authenticity.

Great images thank you.

Regards Alex

Frogsmile that indeed makes sense yes, I had not thought of that...thank you
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