Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby Frogsmile » 08 Aug 2017 22:14

tabony wrote:Strange you should mention the 1680s. I've just started to work on some figures from the period. It started with a museum asking me to make the Lord High Admirals regiment. Just the push I needed! :D

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That's great, you must post some pictures when you finish them.

Regarding the red woollen cap comforters, they were called 'watering caps', invariably made of red knitted wool and seemingly copied from a simplified form of 'bonnet de police' used by the French.
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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby tabony » 09 Aug 2017 00:08

Ah yes, the things that look like an old night cap. I'd never seen it worn under a helmet before though.

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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby Frogsmile » 09 Aug 2017 08:38

tabony wrote:Ah yes, the things that look like an old night cap. I'd never seen it worn under a helmet before though.

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I imagine that they were not permitted to be worn that way when on mounted guard and in the public presence, but they were popular during that period for stable routines, watering, etc. when at Summer camp and on campaign. In cold weather they must have made the metal helmets a lot more comfortable and it could easily be stowed when on the march. The principle of a knitted woollen cap 'comforter' beneath a metal casque/helmet went back as far as Roman times and was seen on bowman at Agincourt and pikemen at Edgehill.
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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby tabony » 09 Aug 2017 18:01

I thought I'd add this just because it's nice to see the gold coat without the "jockey cap"
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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby Frogsmile » 11 Aug 2017 17:48

tabony wrote:I thought I'd add this just because it's nice to see the gold coat without the "jockey cap"


Yes, it is, and very interesting too to see that the crest was a different colour to the rest of the regiment. It had been very common for a long time for the band (and the Farriers) to be dressed differently.
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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby tabony » 12 Aug 2017 21:54

L G trumpeters have worn a red plume since at least the 1812 uniform.

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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby Frogsmile » 13 Aug 2017 14:51

tabony wrote:L G trumpeters have worn a red plume since at least the 1812 uniform.

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Yes and I was interested to learn that they ride greys and wear different cloaks, too.

The original enquirer, HRM, seems to have disappeared!
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Re: Mid 19th century 2nd Life Guard trooper's uniform

Postby tabony » 13 Aug 2017 19:03

And different tunic lace with no plates. Also they still use 1LG sheepskin. It may look exactly like a RHG/D, but it's not, it's 1LG. :D
Hopefully other members will find this interesting. I know I read other things on here.
Not long after I made the posts about farriers, I was contacted through the HC brotherhood page, I'd forgotten to mention the small strap that supports the butt end of the axe. You never know who's watching!! :D

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