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Armband

Postby ronmarsden » 09 Feb 2017 10:38

CDV by Baldwins of India, badge on the helmet looks to be KOSB CIRCA 1890s?
Any significance to the armband?
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Re: Armband

Postby Frogsmile » 09 Feb 2017 10:55

It is very likely to be a black crepe mourning band from the death of Queen Victoria, as that was worn on the left upper arm.

A much longer shot is that it might be a regimental police arm band, although it was more common in the period before WW1 for such armbands to be worn on the right cuff.

On balance then it's most likely to be the former.
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Re: Armband

Postby grumpy » 09 Feb 2017 13:07

Frogsmile I agree, but interestingly KR do not allow mourning bands below Warrant Officer rank [para 1703].

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Re: Armband

Postby Frogsmile » 09 Feb 2017 13:17

grumpy wrote:Frogsmile I agree, but interestingly KR do not allow mourning bands below Warrant Officer rank [para 1703].

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Yes, I recall that we have discussed it before, I think in the GWF. I vaguely recollect that ranks below WO were later allowed to wear a mourning band in set circumstances, although I think that was sometime after the turn of the century.
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Re: Armband

Postby rob carman » 09 Feb 2017 14:42

A morbid question...In the Volunteers, what threshold of national, local or familial "celebrity" warranted armbands for all officers, which warranted armbands on only one or two officers in larger groups? Rob.
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Re: Armband

Postby grumpy » 09 Feb 2017 16:43

KR 1898 "when in mourning or attending funerals" and the implication is that it was a personal matter.
KR 1912 drops "funerals".
Nevertheless, I am reasonably sure that mass mourning would be ordered on occasion.
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Re: Armband

Postby ronmarsden » 11 Feb 2017 12:43

Thank you for your comments guys.
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