VictorianEra wrote:Frogsmile, where would I be without your seemingly endless knowledge? I'm sorry, yes, I did forget about the one you posted in the A&SH Frock topic. I also did check the Cameronians Victoria Cross winners on that website prior to buying it, but I thought there could've possibly been more winners. Interesting no soldier/officer won a VC from 1879-1914. Did the Cameronians serve in any major battles during the 2nd Anglo-Boer War? Also, I notice the other Cameronian Frocks, officer and ORs alike, have shoulder boards on them. My example does not, do you think they have become absent due to age, or were they not there in the start? I'm sorry to say I have no close-up pictures of the shoulders of this frock, but when it arrives, I will take detailed pictures when the frock arrives in the mail. These detailed pictures are very appreciated and very helpful, Frogsmile.
The original ribbon of the regular army's long service and good conduct medal fits, as it had a crimson ribbon without the white edges that were later added, which would fit for an officer commissioned from the ranks, although I am unsure of the positioning protocol alongside the SA medal.
VictorianEra wrote:So this is likely a 2nd Battalion (Scottish Rifles) Frock, the officer has a long service/good conduct medal and a QSA medal, and served in the Boer War. Frogsmile, I was reading everything over again and you saidThe original ribbon of the regular army's long service and good conduct medal fits, as it had a crimson ribbon without the white edges that were later added, which would fit for an officer commissioned from the ranks, although I am unsure of the positioning protocol alongside the SA medal.
So this officer may have been commissioned from the ranks, which was a rare occurrence? Also, would Trews, a SR Black Glengarry likely been worn with this, and a Rifle Brigade cross belt be worn with this? Are there instances where Officers would wear their Sam Browne with their undress frock while in the barracks, or no?
VictorianEra wrote:On another militaria website I found a Scottish Rifles black Sam Browne with two shoulder straps as you said. It has on it a .455 holster, sword frog and 1 bullet pouch, and was Victorian. Victorian Scottish Rifles glengarries and trews are quite scarce/rare for purchase as well, I would imagine. It's a shame the name tag on this is all scratched up and hard to read, it would've been interesting to research this Officer's career. I noticed that there is my example of this frock, and the Cameronians Doublet that you just posted a picture of, Frogsmile, that are clearly rifle green. But most of the other pictures of the uniform displays are very black or appear black, especially the ORs frocks, on the ORs shoulder I even detect a dark blue colour. Wondering if the "black" is a darker version of rifle green, where some examples such as the one I just purchased are clearly rifle green, whereas the "black" examples are more black with a hint of green, or is it just the lighting in the photo, perhaps? Or were there different colours depending on maker/battalion? Or maybe it's just my eyes...
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