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Postby emehegan » 23 Oct 2016 02:23

I was digging deeper through the family papers and was amazed to come across my great-grandmother's diaries during her time in Persia. There are 4 books to go through but I'm pretty hopeful that she mentioned this officer somewhere in there. And thanks for the suggestion of trying the London Gazette. That will be next if I don't find anything in the diaries. I will let you all know if I find anything interesting.
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Re: Looking for any information on uniform, year, etc. Than

Postby Frogsmile » 24 Oct 2016 10:41

emehegan wrote:I was digging deeper through the family papers and was amazed to come across my great-grandmother's diaries during her time in Persia. There are 4 books to go through but I'm pretty hopeful that she mentioned this officer somewhere in there. And thanks for the suggestion of trying the London Gazette. That will be next if I don't find anything in the diaries. I will let you all know if I find anything interesting.


I suspect that you may well find mention of him. A factor to consider, is that 1901 was around the height of the so-called 'Great Game' (a kind of proto Cold War) when Britain was very nervous of potential Russian incursions into India through Afghanistan. The great game referred to the mutual spying that took place by both sides via various means, including military attaches, travellers and merchants within Persia and Afghanistan, not to mention paid informants and spies from among the native populace. It seems very likely to me that your mystery officer would have been involved in such activity, even if on the periphery.
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Re: Looking for any information on uniform, year, etc. Than

Postby emehegan » 24 Oct 2016 22:32

Interesting that you should mention the Russians. I have already come across several references to Russians including a General Kossagovsky and M. Grube.

"M. Grube, Head of the Russian Bank in Teheran is entirely a different type of man. He is apparently most communicative but I suspect him of affecting a frankness of manner in order to encourage confessions from others."

Also, she mentions a Miss Stone several times who was being held captive and the US Consul General Dickinson negotiating for her release in Sophia. Some of their current events don't sound all that different from our current events.
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Re: Looking for any information on uniform, year, etc. Than

Postby Frogsmile » 26 Oct 2016 10:48

emehegan wrote:Interesting that you should mention the Russians. I have already come across several references to Russians including a General Kossagovsky and M. Grube.

"M. Grube, Head of the Russian Bank in Teheran is entirely a different type of man. He is apparently most communicative but I suspect him of affecting a frankness of manner in order to encourage confessions from others."

Also, she mentions a Miss Stone several times who was being held captive and the US Consul General Dickinson negotiating for her release in Sophia. Some of their current events don't sound all that different from our current events.


That's interesting, do please let us know if you discover the officer's name. The great game became much less of a focus after 1904 when the Russians were decisively humbled by the Japanese, especially at sea.
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Re: Looking for any information on uniform, year, etc. Than

Postby emehegan » 26 Oct 2016 17:55

I went through the diaries and it turned out that there were two books and two facsimile copies, so not four books total. My great-grandmother was writing some interesting details about some of the people they came in contact with but no one that jumped out at me as the officer. Then about 2/3 of the way through, my great-grandfather took over the writing of the diary and he focused entirely on a hunting excursion he went on, so not much help there. On to his autobiography to see if there's anything there.
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Postby Frogsmile » 26 Feb 2017 17:57

Did you ever find anything else?
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