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General's uniform.

Postby Josh&Historyland » 12 Jan 2018 18:03

I understand that this is a little early for the forum's remit, so it may have no place here but just in case, could anyone help me inform a friend as to the uniform of a British General c1820-1825?

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Re: General's uniform.

Postby Frogsmile » 13 Jan 2018 15:34

The following links show good images of that period Josh:

1. Pearson - https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/lie ... kch-181489

2. Smith- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Har ... _Smith.jpg
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Re: General's uniform.

Postby Josh&Historyland » 13 Jan 2018 19:54

Many thanks, Frogsmile. Can I just clarify something my enquierer brought up. That is regarding the rank of 'Full General'. These pictures are of Lt. Generals, which is what I initially equated with the question, but it gives me pause to ask if the rank of 'Full General' was in existence or common in the early 19th century?

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Re: General's uniform.

Postby Frogsmile » 14 Jan 2018 10:38

Josh&Historyland wrote:Many thanks, Frogsmile. Can I just clarify something my enquierer brought up. That is regarding the rank of 'Full General'. These pictures are of Lt. Generals, which is what I initially equated with the question, but it gives me pause to ask if the rank of 'Full General' was in existence or common in the early 19th century?

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Yes Josh, even before the creation of the ‘Standing Army’ in 1660, the general ranks were largely similar to today. Actual badges of rank for these general officers were first decreed in 1767, with the ranks descending from Field Marshal to Brigadier General, the latter being unsubstantive and temporary. The reason Major General is junior to Lieutenant General is because the full title of the former was Sergeant Major General. Brigadier, a French word, was originally a rank junior to Sergeant Major.
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Re: General's uniform.

Postby Josh&Historyland » 14 Jan 2018 18:02

Do you happen to know what differentiated a full General from a Lt. General in terms of uniform?
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Re: General's uniform.

Postby Frogsmile » 14 Jan 2018 18:19

Josh&Historyland wrote:Do you happen to know what differentiated a full General from a Lt. General in terms of uniform?


Until 1831 the differentiation was via s-shaped gold lace configured in chevrons on the lower sleeve. For a full general there were four chevron configurations on each sleeve evenly spaced (total eight). For a lieutenant general there were six chevron configurations on each sleeve positioned in pairs (total twelve). In review order heavy gold lace, fringed epaulettes were worn, and for levees silk knee stockings, fine white breeches and buckled shoes were worn as nether garments.

N.B. Early in 1831 the combinations of crowns, wreaths, batons, and swords (along with varyingly spaced buttons) so well known now were introduced. It was not until 1855 that rank badges for both, regimental and general officers were regulated in such a way as to be standard across the different arms of the Service.
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