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Connaught Rangers - QSA medal clasps

Postby Savo » 07 Nov 2008 21:51

Trying to piece together the service record of Pte John McManus Army No 6218 during his time the S.Africa. Can anyone enlighten me to the clasps that are on his QSA - Transvaal, Relief of Ladysmith, Orange Free State, Tugela Heights, Cape Colony. His records state he was overseas from 10 November 1899 to 10 April 1902. Apart from that this is all I know about his time in this campaign.
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Postby tommy » 08 Nov 2008 18:16

Savo wrote:Trying to piece together the service record of Pte John McManus Army No 6218 during his time the S.Africa. Can anyone enlighten me to the clasps that are on his QSA - Transvaal, Relief of Ladysmith, Orange Free State, Tugela Heights, Cape Colony. His records state he was overseas from 10 November 1899 to 10 April 1902. Apart from that this is all I know about his time in this campaign.


hello savo
sorry i cant help you
but maybe you can help me
how did you get service record for John
i'm trying to trace info on a relation who was K I A in south africa
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Postby Mark » 08 Nov 2008 19:04

Hi Tommy

A warm welcome to the forum.

If your man's service records have survived they will be held at the National Archives in London. You can either make an appointment and vist yourself or you can employ a researcher to have a look for you - perhaps the better option if you don't know the NA very well. If anything is found you can take photocopies for your records.

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Postby Savo » 08 Nov 2008 19:24

Tommy

Mark said it all. I commisioned a great researcher who gained information from National Archives several months back. The paperwork was smoke and water damaged but it survived the blitz. There is so much info to go through from the search I am currently fully focused on the 1899 - 1902 section of his service.
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Re: Connaught Rangers - QSA medal clasps

Postby tommy » 08 Nov 2008 20:50

thanks Mark and Savo
my daughter is hoping to go to Kew later this month
and try to get some info
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Re: Connaught Rangers - QSA medal clasps

Postby splash154 » 02 Jan 2009 16:09

Savo & Tommy

Like you Savo, I have the same medal from the Boer War where my grandfather James Thomas Ashdown served in the Connaught Rangers, so I guess your ancestor Mr McManus and my grandfather may have fought alongside each other!

My grandfather survived the war and was married in 1904 and I have a researcher (a friend) trying to locate his discharge papers and any military records for his time with the Rangers and his further military history when he served in the World War 1. I believe he joined them in Ireland although he wasn't Irish so there is a mystery in how that might have happened.

Please let me know how either of you get on researching the Boer War and any ancestor history and I will post my findings here if it is of any help.

Good luck

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Postby tommy » 02 Jan 2009 21:36

hello john
happy new year
my daughter did visit Kew last month
we got a little more info on Pte Hagan
he was in the 5th batt Connaught Rangers
was awarded the South Africa Medal with clasps for
Cape Colony Orange Free State and Transvaal
which we dont have and have no idea where they are
the info was available on micro film only
so you do have to go to Kew to view it
i have photo copies of medal roll [part] covers
conroy to courtney
and healy to hickey

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Postby kaiser » 02 Jan 2009 22:02

are you sure it 5th Btn?? i could have swore Irish units had only 1st & 2nd Btns before WW1

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Postby tommy » 03 Jan 2009 02:45

andrew
thats what the roll shows
and there's a few soldiers listed as 5th
however the page title says 1st battalion
beside each name is 1st batt or 5th batt
or 3rd or 4th or 1st AR or 4th R I R
the lists were photocopied in A3 size
i will get them reduced and try to post them
on the forum
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Postby SWB » 03 Jan 2009 18:59

They would be militia and volunteer battalions. I can't see why the Irish rgts would be exempt from having these formations.

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Postby kaiser » 03 Jan 2009 19:45

sorry Meurig i got my info wrong prior to WW1 Irish units had no Territorial Force is waht i ment to say sorry for the confusion :(
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Postby SWB » 03 Jan 2009 20:53

Andrew,

and I didn't know about the lack of Irish TF rgts :)

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Postby tommy » 03 Jan 2009 23:12

Andrew
i will email you a copy of the Roll if you want it
Question
was it usual for troops killed in action to be buried where they fell during the Boer War
the reason i ask is that a relation Pte Hagan was buried with two comrades in a field
were there no military graveyards ?
2nd Question
where can i find out if his medal and clasps were ever sent to his family in Ireland
Thanks in advance
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Postby kaiser » 03 Jan 2009 23:27

Well Tommy i have a QSA to a guy D.O.D and he was buried pretty much were he died at Modder River and his medal was sent to his mother, but bad news soldiers that died there papers were normally destoried, but lucky for me on the roll page it said medal sent to ''Next of Kin Mother''
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Postby tommy » 03 Jan 2009 23:43

thanks andrew
i would like to have a QSA medal and clasps even though its not the original
can anyone advise where to purchase and what is the usual price ??
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