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Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby Vonwil » 20 Apr 2016 20:20

Hey guys... I seem to have a knack of finding strange belts .. anyone recognise this one?
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby Waggoner » 20 Apr 2016 20:26

Sword sling?
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby Vonwil » 21 Apr 2016 05:35

Yes - see this pic... but who's!?
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 23 Apr 2016 21:38

Do the brass hook and buckle seem like they are actually plated brass over pot metal. I sorta looks that way but I can't say for sure. Also, think possibly fraternal or theatrical. Is that a rivet on the left bottom of the inside of the buckle?
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby Vonwil » 27 Apr 2016 09:26

Thanks for the response - as I don't own the item yet I can't answer your questions unfortunately - I wanted to see if it had some value before buying it...
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby AlexReece » 27 Apr 2016 11:08

Vonwil wrote:Thanks for the response - as I don't own the item yet I can't answer your questions unfortunately - I wanted to see if it had some value before buying it...


Hello Vonwill

I agree with Waggoner that the item is a sword sling, the lions head buckle pictured attached to the sling is late Victorian and would be brass with gilt overlay, its called a Billet.

Probably Royal Artillery sword sling.

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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 01 May 2016 03:43

I think that "billet" means an ingot of unshaped metal. Maybe "pot metal" is an American term, but I looked up the proper British Isles definition of billet, and it comes out as ingot. Is "pot metal" a British term? We share the same language, but..........
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby AlexReece » 01 May 2016 12:51

ED, in Los Angeles wrote:I think that "billet" means an ingot of unshaped metal. Maybe "pot metal" is an American term, but I looked up the proper British Isles definition of billet, and it comes out as ingot. Is "pot metal" a British term? We share the same language, but..........



Hello Ed

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In the above post the word 'Billet' as associated with the sword sling buckle ( Sword Belt & Slings..Hanger Buckle ) mentioned by Martin ( Tabony ) post seven...

Most Collectors/Dealers in UK refer the Victorian sword sling hanger buckle as a 'Billet', 'Billets' as a pair....either a plain brass buckle or the loin face brass buckle with gold gilt overlay....Yes the word Billet also has a few different meanings here in the UK, especially in the metalworking trade, and you are correct in saying 'Billet' associated with such practices.

'Pot metal' is also used in British terminology yes....


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A nice pair :roll:

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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby Vonwil » 02 May 2016 18:52

Thanks guys for your help!
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Re: Another unknown Victorian Belt

Postby AlexReece » 02 May 2016 21:56

Vonwil wrote:Thanks guys for your help!


Your Welcome Vonwil

Did you obtain the Belt & Slings ?

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