21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

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21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

Postby NickSimpson » 07 Sep 2017 21:48

I have a very poor photocopy of a photograph that was taken in Abbassia, Egypt in 1898 shortly before their famous charge at Omdurman. It shows Lieutenant de Montmorency and his troop of 21st Lancers. Altogether there are twenty nine soldiers including Lieut de Montmorency. The photographer was Lekegian, Cairo.

This is quite a well known photograph and I was wondering if anyone can identify any of the N.C.O's and private soldiers?

I would be grateful for any help and advice.

Many thanks,

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Re: 21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

Postby Jamesblunsdon » 06 Nov 2017 21:05

Is this photograph available to view online?
I have two relatives that I may be able to identify.

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Re: 21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 06 Nov 2017 21:52

Probably not James. Lieut de Montmorency was "B" Squadron, not "A". I am looking at the photo in a book as I type.

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Re: 21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

Postby Jamesblunsdon » 06 Nov 2017 22:47

Shame, thanks though Ed. Which book is that?
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Re: 21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

Postby ED, in Los Angeles » 07 Nov 2017 05:55

The book is called "The Last Charge, The 21st lancers and the Battle of Omdurman, September 2, 1898" by Terry Brighton.

It is also called "The Last Charge, Queen Victoria's Lancers and the Battle of Omdurman, 2 September 1898". Same author.

I do not know the difference between the two. I have the first one and all the book sellers are using the stock photo for the first one listed to portray the second one.

Try Amazon, Ebay, or abe books uk.

It is 128 pages and has lots of pictures and color plates and lists and info. Excellent! There is a panoramic photo of all four squadrons together in Cairo, and though you can see no faces, your ggf is most likely in the picture. The image also gives the viewer the size and scope of the charge into Khor Abu Sunt.
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Re: 21st Lancers group photo at Abbassia 1898

Postby Jamesblunsdon » 12 Nov 2017 00:19

So, I've ordered the book, the detail is fantastic and the photographs are really great, a lot of which I haven't come across on my extensive google searches. Thanks for recommending it Ed.

With a quick glance it seems that the photo is cropped and only shows 16 men. I'm looking at page 46.
It would be brilliant to see the full photo.

3rd man on left, second row is Private Brown.
2nd man on right, second row is Private Varley and the man to the right of him is Private Rowlett
This info is from page 83.


According to the book my ggf Charles John Lawrence Smith was in B Squadron so he could potentially be in the full version of this photo. It looks like his brother, Albert, may have been in A Squadron.

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