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19th Hussards

Postby agrippa » 06 Oct 2015 17:16

Hi, i need a little help from you:

Jackets of 19th Hussards they were blue or gray?
How many pockets officer's jacket had? Two, four or none?

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby jf42 » 06 Oct 2015 21:12

Does your query refer to a French cavalry regiment? In which case you would be best addressing your question to a forum that deals with French military matters although there may an interest overlap for some members here.

If you mean the 19th Hussars, the title assumed by the 1st Bengal European Cavalry in 1862 after they transferred from East India Company service, you might want to supply some more details. Did you have a specific period between 1862 and 1914 in mind? Which kind of jacket are you thinking of? There were a number of orders of dress to consider.

For example, these are just for the enlisted men of the 13th Hussars:
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/a ... rs1903.htm

The Bengal cavalry, I believe, did wear grey-blue jackets. However, from the 1860s onward, for British regiments of Hussars (apart from the 11th) the basic uniform for Home Service was a dark blue.

http://www.hussards-photos.com/UK_home.htm

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/new ... to/3398110
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Re: 19th Hussars

Postby agrippa » 06 Oct 2015 22:21

Hi,

19th Royal Hussars (Queen Alexandra's Own)
1882 Egyptian expedition and 1884-85 expedition to the Sudan.

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby Mark A. Reid » 11 Oct 2015 18:13

Hello HA:

I thought one of our uniform experts might have responded by now but herewith a non-expert's opinion based on 20th century secondary sources.

1882 - The 19th wore a blue five-button frock with black knee boots.

1884-5 Nile Expedition - Like almost everyone else, they wore the grey frock with blue puttees.

More detail can be found on-line or in the many published articles on the Nile Expedition. Good luck!

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby jf42 » 11 Oct 2015 21:34

Some notes on the Sudan phase of the 19th's service in Sudan

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/pages. ... form-guide

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6QX ... 82&f=false

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby agrippa » 13 Oct 2015 17:08

"The road to Metammeh 1885". They wore blue jacket and blue puttees...

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby mike snook » 13 Oct 2015 19:06

They wore grey jackets. Trust me.

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby agrippa » 13 Oct 2015 22:06

Thanks to all.

I find this with some references included in the text. Here the autor refer blue jackets and blue puttees.

http://www.savageandsoldier.com/sudan/DesertColumn.html

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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby jf42 » 13 Oct 2015 23:07

That article was originally written 1999 and cites an Illustrated London News engraving as its reference for the 19th wearing blue jackets in the Sudan, which is not the most reliable source taken on its own. It's safe to say opinions have evolved since then.
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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby mike snook » 15 Oct 2015 23:17

Grey.
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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby Frogsmile » 16 Oct 2015 13:48

19th Hussars, in GREY, by one of my favourite contemporary artists, who goes to great lengths for authenticity. Officers wore the same colour and contemporary artists showed the officers of the 19th without pockets visible externally, although it is unclear if the drawings were taken from life.

Like Mike, Michael Perry has studied the uniforms of the campaign and states the following vis the 19th:

"The 19th wore the standard grey serge frocks but with Bedford cord pantaloons and home service boots. After El Teb Burleigh says that the cavalry were ordered to arm themselves with native spears which were found to be far more effective than swords for reaching enemy going prone at the point of impact."
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Re: 19th Hussards

Postby agrippa » 17 Oct 2015 20:22

I would like to thank everyone for your help in this question.

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