Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

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Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

Postby jf42 » 23 Apr 2015 09:32

Here is a photograph that is not often anthologised, for reasons that may seem obvious, taken from the Getty archive.

Dated to 'circa 1885' it shows General Wolseley on board the SS Queen with his staff.

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The figures are identified as:

"Back row: Major Seymour, Ayde, Colonel Grove;
Front row: Major Creagh, Lord Wolseley and Lord Charles Beresford."

Some clothing details are interesting. General Wolselely is wearing a khaki drill frock with breast pockets rather than the blue or drab serge frock familiar from other photographs and appears to be wearing the equivalent of Spahi trousers. Major Creagh, in the matelots cap, for nether garments appears to be wearing only his long johns.
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Re: Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

Postby Mark A. Reid » 23 Apr 2015 13:12

Hello jf42:

Thanks for showcasing such a wonderful image. It was always my understanding that the fellow perched on the viewer's Left at the front was Lord Charles Beresford, and certainly a comparison of faces suggests that it is indeed " Charley. " I wonder if the sequence of names in the caption might be from Right to Left?

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Re: Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

Postby jf42 » 23 Apr 2015 13:25

I am sure that you're suspicion will prove correct, Mark. Getty captioning is not the most reliable. For example, it describes the 92nd photos at Edinburgh Castle in 1845 as being of the 42nd.
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Re: Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

Postby mike snook » 23 Apr 2015 18:54

Yebo, agree with Mark. Lord Charlie never wore a moustache as far as I know. When I say never....you know what I mean! I've never been able to work out what would inspire him to sit down in his underwear for a photo with C-in-C Egypt. But since the C-in-C is also wearing his pyjamas...I suppose it's not's so strange after all. :D

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Re: Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

Postby jf42 » 23 Apr 2015 20:47

mike snook wrote:Yebo, agree with Mark. Lord Charlie never wore a moustache as far as I know. When I say never....you know what I mean! I've never been able to work out what would inspire him to sit down in his underwear for a photo with C-in-C Egypt. But since the C-in-C is also wearing his pyjamas...I suppose it's not's so strange after all. :D

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That detail seems to clinch it. Right to left it is.

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Re: Wolseley & staff, S.S. Queen c.1885

Postby Isandlwana » 01 May 2015 19:36

There are those who will notice something of a likeness between Wolseley & Creagh:

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The then Lieutenant Arthur Gethin Creagh, Royal Artillery, circa 1879.
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and his uncle, Garnet!

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Sir Garnet Joseph Wolseley, also 1879.
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There's nothing like a bit of nephewtism!

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with brave men's blood for England's sake and duty...
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