First Battle of Kassassin

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First Battle of Kassassin

Postby HerbertKitch12 » 11 Nov 2016 15:46

Sorry I am really on one this week :)

Which regiments fought in the first and second actions at Kassassin? Were any personnel from the Anglo Indian reinforcements at the first battle?

Look forward to the replies :-)
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Re: First Battle of Kassassin

Postby Frogsmile » 22 Nov 2016 18:16

You might find this book of use in answering some of your questions (see page 159 for Kassassin): https://archive.org/details/egyptiancampaign00roylrich

Order of battle of the British Expeditionary Force

Commander: Lieutenant General Sir Garnet Wolseley
Chief of Staff: Lieutenant General Sir John Adye

1st Division (Lt Gen GHS Willis)

1st Brigade (Maj Gen HRH The Duke of Connaught)
2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards
2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards
1st Battalion, Scots Guards

2nd Brigade (Maj Gen Gerald Graham VC)
1st Battalion, The Buffs (East Kent Regiment)
1st Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria’s)
2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria’s)
2nd Battalion, York and Lancaster Regiment

Divisional Troops
19th Hussars (2 Sqns)
2nd Battalion, Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry
A Battery, 1st Field Brigade, Royal Artillery
D Battery, 1st Field Brigade, Royal Artillery
24 Field Company, Royal Engineers
12 Company, Army Commissariat and Transport Corps
1 Bearer Company, Army Hospital Corps (Half)
3 Field Hospital, Army Hospital Corps

2nd Division (Lt Gen Sir Edward Hamley)

3rd (Highland) Infantry Brigade (Maj Gen Sir Archibald Alison)
2nd Battalion, Highland Light Infantry
1st Battalion, Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
1st Battalion, Cameron Highlanders
1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders

4th Brigade (Maj Gen Sir Evelyn Wood VC)
1st Battalion, The Royal Sussex Regiment
1st Battalion, Royal Berkshire Regiment (Princess Charlotte’s)
1st Battalion, The South Staffordshire Regiment
1st Battalion, The King’s Shropshire Light Infantry

Divisional Troops
19th Hussars (2 Sqns)
3rd Battalion, The King’s Royal Rifle Corps
I Battery, 2nd Field Brigade, Royal Artillery
N Battery, 2nd Field Brigade, Royal Artillery
26 Field Company, Royal Engineers
11 Company, Army Commissariat and Transport Corps
2 Bearer Company, Army Hospital Corps (Half)
4 Field Hospital, Army Hospital Corps
5 Field Hospital, Army Hospital Corps

Indian Contingent (Maj Gen Sir Herbert Macpherson VC)
1st Battalion, Manchester Regiment
1st Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders
7th Bengal Infantry
20th Punjab Infantry
29th Baluch Infantry
7 (Mountain) Battery, Northern Division, Royal Garrison Artillery
(plus their own Commissariat, Engineers etc.)

Cavalry Division (Maj Gen Drury Curzon Drury Lowe)
1st (Heavy) Cavalry Brigade (Brig Gen Sir Baker Creed Russell)
Household Cavalry Composite Regiment (1 Sqn each from the 1st Life Guards, 2nd Life Guards and Royal Horse Guards)
4th Dragoon Guards
7th Dragoon Guards
2nd (Bengal) Cavalry Brigade (Brig Gen H. C. Wilkinson)
2nd Bengal Cavalry
6th Bengal Cavalry
13th Bengal Lancers

Divisional Troops
N Battery, 1 Horse Brigade, Royal Horse Artillery
Mounted Infantry Battalion (formed from Mounted Coys of line infantry battalions)
17 Company, Army Commissariat and Transport
6 Field Hospital, Army Hospital Corps

Army Troops
Naval Brigade
Battalion, Royal Marine Light Infantry
G Battery, 2nd Horse Brigade, Royal Horse Artillery
F Battery, 1st Field Brigade, Royal Field Artillery
H Battery, 1st Field Brigade, RFA
C Battery, 3rd Field Brigade, RFA
J Battery, 3rd Field Brigade, RFA
T Battery, 3rd Field Brigade, RFA
Royal Marine Artillery
1 Battery, London Division, Royal Garrison Artillery
4 Battery, London Division, RGA
5 Battery, London Division, RGA
5 Battery, Scottish Division, RGA
6 Battery, Scottish Division, RGA
Army Train
A (Bridging) Troop, Royal Engineers
C (Telegraph) Troop, RE
Railway Troop, RE
8 Field Company, RE
17 Field Company, RE
18 Field Company, RE
A Company, Queen’s Own Madras Sappers and Miners
I Company, QOMS&M
8 Company, Army Commissariat and Transport Corps
15 Company, ACT Corps
Auxiliary Company, ACT Corps
2 Bearer Company, Army Hospital Corps
1 Field Hospital, AHC
3 Field Hospital, AHC
7 Field Hospital, AHC
8 Field Hospital, AHC
Army Post Office Corps (M Company 49th Middlesex Rifle Volunteers)
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Re: First Battle of Kassassin

Postby A Waterston » 18 Jan 2017 13:01

The Indian contingent did not arrive in Kassassin until after the first battle had ended. The Indian reinforcements arrived in Ismailia on the 25th August, though Wolseley prioritised the unloading of stores (the British logistics were awful) and the British units (I suspect he thought they would be far more influential on both the military situation and his career). The Indian General, MacPherson, had the audacity to complain at the delay to London Wolseley was ordered to unload the Indians. The 2nd Bengal Cavalry and the 13th Bengal Lancers arrived in Mahsama on 2nd September and it was at this point that Wolseley had to change his orbat to the one shown in the post above.
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Re: First Battle of Kassassin

Postby bill wright » 20 Jan 2017 00:03

Dear Herbert
An account of 1st Kassassin is given in my book, A TIDY LITTLE WAR pages 191-205 inclusive. The spat over Wolseley`s reluctance to use the Indian troops is explained on pages 194-195. Macpherson quite rightly (in my opinion) complained to the Indian Government, who duly complained to London, that Wolseley was holding back the Indian Contingent. Colonel Moore, Bombay Staff Corps, serving under Macpherson as chief interpreter and head of intelligence, was so humiliated by Wolseley when he went to present his credentials at headquarters that he lamented against the British officers: "How they hate the Indian Army !"
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Re: First Battle of Kassassin

Postby ragbones » 21 Jan 2017 04:45

I enjoyed "A Tidy Little War," very much, Bill. Do you have anything else related to the Victorian Colonial era in the works?
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