96th Foot - facings colour?

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96th Foot - facings colour?

Postby J.Ross » 08 Aug 2016 13:24

Could anyone confirm the colour of the facings of the 96th Foot in 1845?

The 'Army Lists' for that and other years give the colour as yellow, but I've seen buff mentioned in several places. Could the lists be wrong for some reason? There was an earlier version of the 96th, I think, whose (buff) colours are preserved in the Manchester Regimental Museum, so perhaps that's the source of the confusion...? However, the picture below claims to show an officer of the 96th c.1851, and the facings appear to be white!

http://www.artvalue.com/image.aspx?PHOTO_ID=1930635&width=500&height=500
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Re: 96th Foot - facings colour?

Postby jf42 » 08 Aug 2016 16:01

The coat colour facings of the preceding regiment, disbanded in 1818 as the 96th (Queen's Own Germans) Regiment of Foot, are listed on the archived regiments.org as:

1798-1805: scarlet; facings: yellow; officers' lace: silver
1805-1818: scarlet; facings: blue; officers' lace: gold

http://web.archive.org/web/200801031614 ... 97-798.htm

The change to blue facings recognised the granting in 1802 of the title 'Queen's German Regiment' to the former 'Stuart's' or Minorca Regiment (formed in 1798)

The same site lists the coat and facings of the 96th Regiment formed in 1824 as:

1824-1881: scarlet; facings: yellow
http://web.archive.org/web/200801130605 ... 96-824.htm

The Army Lists would not slip up on something as basic as a regiment's facing colour. Unofficial adjustments, not sanctioned by regulations, were another matter.

It may be that the 1824 incarnation of the 96th assumed the facing colour of the previous 96th regiment before they achieved 'Royal' regiment status in 1802 ( and were still numbered '97'); It may be their original, faded, colours that are housed in the Manchester Regiment museum. It could be coincidence. The 96th weren't recognised as the inheritors of the Queen's German's battle honours and other traditions until 1874; a little late in the day, given their subsequent amalgamation with the 63rd in 1881.
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Re: 96th Foot - facings colour?

Postby J.Ross » 11 Aug 2016 01:16

Thanks! I'd thought that was probably the case - the 'buff' idea appears to crop up only on a few websites and wargaming articles about the 1845 Maori war; probably just repetitions of an original mistake somewhere down the line...

The older regimental colour I mentioned is this one, by the way - certainly looks buff, although it could be a faded yellow!:

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Re: 96th Foot - facings colour?

Postby Frogsmile » 12 Sep 2016 13:30

J.Ross wrote:Thanks! I'd thought that was probably the case - the 'buff' idea appears to crop up only on a few websites and wargaming articles about the 1845 Maori war; probably just repetitions of an original mistake somewhere down the line...

The older regimental colour I mentioned is this one, by the way - certainly looks buff, although it could be a faded yellow!:

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Yellow did indeed fade like that. Buff, depending on period and usage, could be one of a number of shades ranging from off-white through cream, to a dusty beige.
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